As parent says, would you rather have “undisciplined” obese people or undisciplined non-obese people? Because those are the realistic choices here.
I don't judge people for taking ozempic, but I am absolutely confused why people see this as a massive win for society. We're just doubling down on our dysfunction.
What's causing the hormone issues? Who cares. Throw a pill at it and we can forget about it.
I don't really see myself ever forgiving the west for prioritizing medication over holistic treatment. I've been through way too many mental health institutions to ever trust medicated treatment.
What is the physical basis for lack of self discipline?
IDK, wanting to be alive and happy?
> What is the physical basis for lack of self discipline?
That's just a category error. I just don't see obesity as worth caring about on an individual-level compared to the social dysfunction that produces it. If we can only address problems on an individual-level I don't really see why I should expect anything positive from society—that's just not rational.
But you still want to pass judgement using your ill-defined concept of "self discipline."