Comment by inetknght | Hacker News Reader

Comment by inetknght | Hacker News Reader

Oh hell yeah! I used CLion about 6 or 7 years ago at my job, and it was a pretty great product for small projects. It used to slow down really bad for a medium-sized project though and I switched to VSCode.

I've since moved on to new employers, but I'd love to check it out again.

> It’s important to note that, if you’re using a non-commercial license, you cannot opt out of the collection of anonymous usage statistics. We use this information to improve our products.

Well, it's basically true for MS-branded VSCode too. I now use VSCodium.

But I'm heavily against Microsoft. I don't like usage statistics collection, but at least this is a direct competitor to Microsoft.

I had a chance to speak to some of the JetBrains folk at CppCon a couple years back. It was really nice and reassuring.

I'll check it out for personal projects and see if it's improved since years ago. :)

Jdk improvements and the new Nova/Rider backend how dramatically improved JetBrains performance. I highly encourage you to give it another shot.

> > It’s important to note that, if you’re using a non-commercial license, you cannot opt out of the collection of anonymous usage statistics. We use this information to improve our products.

> Well, it's basically true for MS-branded VSCode too. I now use VSCodium.

How's that "basically true"? That's false. You can opt out. In fact there's very good documentation around that

https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/configure/telemetry

According to Microsoft's own license terms for VS Code, you can't opt out of all telemetry; see Section 2a: https://code.visualstudio.com/license

> You may opt-out of many of these scenarios, but not all, as described in the product documentation located at https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/supporting/faq#_how-to-di....

Also, each extension (including Microsoft's) may collect its own telemetry. The blog post https://www.roboleary.net/tools/2022/04/20/vscode-telemetry has more details.

Personally, I think it's a shame that JetBrains get such flack for collecting telemetry in their free products when Microsoft do the same in VS Code with hardly anyone voicing the same level of criticism for it.

> a shame that JetBrains get such flack for collecting telemetry in their free products

Probably 99.99% of developers don’t care.

The ones who complain about it online are a tiny vocal minority.

The CLion language engine was completely rewritten since then.

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