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> RapMachine

Fine-tuned on pure rap data to create an AI system specialized in rap generation Expected capabilities include AI rap battles and narrative expression through rap Rap has exceptional storytelling and expressive capabilities, offering extraordinary application potential

Using a certain other music generator I got it to accidentally say ***. It said it with a Latino American accent too.

In fact for whatever reason this tool couldn’t use a typical AAVE voice. Just Sage Francis / Atmosphere like dictionary raps and a few Latino American ones.

A big limitation of AI sloop is it tries to not offend anyone.

Art that can’t even try to offend is barely art.

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> A big limitation of AI sloop is it tries to not offend anyone.

That tends to be very true of major commercially-hosted and proprietary systems, and true (but somewhat less and less consistently so) of open foundation models from corporations and big labs, but community models (including community fine tunes of big-vendor open models) much less so. This is very visible in LLMs, image models, and video models right now.

Rap (and even music more generally) models don't have as much attention right now, but I suspect if/as they get more attention and community use the same dynamic is likely to emerge.

> Art that can’t even try to offend is barely art.

I do not believe that offense is a necessary or sufficient component of art. If I raise my middle finger at someone, that is not art, but rather offense. If I view Botticelli's Primavera, I'm looking at art, and I detect no intent to offend, nor do I take offense.

There is certainly room for offense within art: the iambic poetry of Archilochus and Hipponax manages to blend aesthetic beauty with ardent invective. But I do not think that art needs or is defined by offense. Offense is accidental to art as a concept.

>Primavera (Italian pronunciation: [primaˈvɛːra], meaning "Spring") is a large panel painting in tempera paint by the Italian Renaissance painter Sandro Botticelli made in the late 1470s or early 1480s (datings vary). It has been described as "one of the most written about, and most controversial paintings in the world",[1] and also "one of the most popular paintings in Western art".[2]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primavera_(Botticelli)

If it's described as controversial, it obviously offended someone if not today, in the past.

Not in the least. Controversy doesn't mean offense. The controversies around the painting relate to its interpretation, to who the model for the main figure might be, to the reasons for the number of variety of plants in the painting... none of which offer offense.

Controversy and debate do not have to be offensive or even acrimonious, and controversies can arise around a subject like a painting without arising because of any offense given in the painting.

Many cultures would regard the content of the painting to be inappropriate though.

Offense doesn't need to mean that it's meant to shock.

I suspect most mainstream AI art generators would refuse to replicate it. Doing so would "offend" the original art.

But a human artist could, perhaps a talented woman flips the gender.

Humans will always be able to challenge us in ways AIs can't.

At home and around close friends I often speak in AAVE. It's apart of my culture and at a core level, me.

When an AI rap generator decides it can't do AAVE, it's saying the very identity that created rap in the first place is offense. I don't expect a masterpiece like Illmatic, but I've yet to hear anything decent from an AI rap generator.

> Art that can’t even try to offend is barely art.

Good art is secondary to avoiding some journalist writing a hit piece about how they used your company’s AI generator to depict Hitler saying the gamer word.

AI generated articles about ai generated music which is generated from reading ai generated articles.

Shall it continue in an unholy loop until the end of time ?

To be fair, nothing AI generated is inherently “good art” if you take artistic intent into account.

Mixing paint in your rectum with the intention of making good art will always rate lower than AI slop

*citation needed

Instrumental music doesn’t count as art? Come on.

Instrumental music can absolutely offend!

It can challenge the old standards, it can push genres into new places.

AI music can’t. It’s too safe.

> Instrumental music can absolutely offend!

The Rite of Spring (Stravinsky) has entered the chat!

And if that's not offensive enough, Music in Similar Motion by Glass, or Metal Machine Music by Pat Metheny or any of Glenn Branca's "guitar symphonies" will likely do the job for most people.

Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music

Pat Metheny - Zero Tolerance for Silence

Also Peaches in Regalia by Zappa.

Or anything 4/4 in some areas at a certain time.

Maybe some specific implementations are “too safe,” but I don’t believe that there’s any combination of notes that an AI couldn’t generate, in theory.

In theory no, but so far most of these things are severely overfit to 2010s-era pop music. They are best described as muzak generators

If you think it's too safe you haven't tried. This took me 5 minutes with almost no thought just to make the point.

https://suno.com/s/5bXmu47Iv1o0xR9U

https://suno.com/s/4pWqmP1zP97LsK8k

https://suno.com/s/ETXPsm6eYwMoiphR

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