yet another "use-after-free" sploit
Rust for Linux, wen?
It's a damn shame the current maintainers are so hostile to its adoption that many of the original rust 4 linux folks have left the project.
Rust for Linux, wen?
It's a damn shame the current maintainers are so hostile to its adoption that many of the original rust 4 linux folks have left the project.
Not necessarily Rust, but something memory safe. Perhaps Java (if maintenance is that important) :P
Linux issues are not purely technical. There is the social inertia.
No. They have opinions and take actions to subvert related work. See people literally stopping a presentation to gripe about Rust cultists, or Hellwig throwing a hissy fit because he doesn't like that Rust code is adjacent to his DMA controller.
This isn't technical discussion, this is Office Politics 104.
If rust is a really good fit for the kernel I imagine people will adapt over time... so far it doesn't seem promising. If the main fear is that you'll end up having to maintain a bunch of rust code, the propensity for the rust people to rage quit doesn't really allay that fear.
If no one wants to do the thing you think is obviously better, you might be a misunderstood genius, or you might be wrong.
That's a not what happened. Hellwig asked that Rust in Linux guys not write common bindings to his layer but do it per driver.
In other words he as DMA code maintainer gets to choose what and how other people use his interfaces for. That's not how interfaces (as in two environments in software interacting ) work.
By that logic if he hates Logitech drivers he can sabotage them because he doesn't like how the devices look?
> In other words he as DMA code maintainer gets to choose what and how other people use his interfaces for.
He as DMA code maintainer choose no Rust code. However he then can't choose to veto Rust code bindings. He could have choosen to have Rust code and that would have given him the veto.
https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/CAHk-=wgLbz1Bm8QhmJ4d...
And this didn't go over well. Shocking.
https://lwn.net/Articles/1006805/
"We wrote a single piece of Rust code that abstracts the C API for all Rust drivers, which we offer to maintain ourselves".
I wish that HN as a whole could maintain a respectful and curious tone of debate when these threads come up. Feel like both rust advocates and skeptics could do a lot better.