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This site is old, and I mean it in a good way.

This site was a "culture" shock for me, back in 200x and made me walk away from Microsoft ASP.NET and start building apps on linux, realizing all those "server controls" with inline style parameters were basically the complete wrong way, the "anti internet way".

It was Alex Russell (creator of Dojo JS) who showed that side in one of the conferences, and I was shocked how much information I was missing while getting my technical news through Microsoft channels.

For many years, my toolkit was simply Web.py, HTML, JS and CSS.

We then got jQuery, and Backbone, and Underscore, till the React and then TS made new "Full stack" dumber again.

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> This site was a "culture" shock for me, back in 200x and made me walk away from Microsoft ASP.NET and start building apps on linux

What stopped you from building such apps on Asp.net? It didn’t prevent you from building anything like that. You could stop creates style sheets and separate JS files.

> realizing all those "server controls" with inline style parameters were basically the complete wrong way, the "anti internet way".

Ironically what’s old is new again because we have literally gone full circle even down to nextjs? Recreating view state… and tailwind with inline styling and shadcn with react components.

Indeed. The famous asp.net "__VIEWSTATE" is now back to life...

Svelte now exists; it's a bit of a "clever" fullstack

> made me walk away from Microsoft ASP.NET and start building apps on linux, realizing all those "server controls" with inline style parameters were basically the complete wrong way, the "anti internet way".

That's still online, although as an outdated relict: https://www.ajaxtoolkit.net/. There was no enterprise software without drag panel!

For a moment semantic markup and CSS had taken the lead but nowadays I don't even care enough to check what the trends are. Stopped caring around the moment of "HTML inside JavaScript" (JSX).

I started writing ASP & PHP, the whole ASP.Net thing was about helping Visual Studio developers make crappy web apps, it wasn't fit for purpose for the web writ large.

You didn't need to switch to Linux either; I built everything under Windows (IT didn't allow Linux desktops) and deployed it to both Windows and Linux servers.

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