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79 pointsarturadib14 comments

I do like it, one question though, anyone can speculate as to why he says use an xmp tag, but then himself uses a textarea on the page? And will google index it?

And if Google can index this, it probably values all text the same; it's just plain text.

The .js seems to allow for either.

I would speculate (after no more than a cursory glance) that using the xmp tag is the Google-indexable method of writing your page? Google should see it as plain text on a web page.

Textarea support could be to provide interactive/editable pages?

I hadn't heard of the <xmp> tag before now. His reasoning ("so that users don't have to escape special HTML characters") seems to be correct, except that it's a deprecated tag (http://stackoverflow.com/q/4545). Perhaps he used a <textarea> on this page so he could have the literal "</xmp>" in it?

That's correct. Although the tag is deprecated, I've tried it with all modern browsers (IE and mobile Safari included), and it seems to work just fine.

I'd think it would take a long time to phase this tag out as it was apparently popular among HTML spec writers, which means there's probably a ton of them still in the wild:

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12235

Couldn't you just escape it, i.e.

    <\/xmp>

inside the text?

There's no provision for escaping things inside an <xmp> tag. From the HTML 2.0 spec: "no markup except the end-tag […] is recognized" http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec_5.html#SEC5.5.2...

Good question. I used <textarea> since I have the unusual circumstance of having to write down "</xmp>" in my Markdown, which would close the opening <xmp> if I had one :)

Most users won't have to do this.

Google does index <xmp>, see e.g. the search result for "devo site:www.the-pope.com". The word "devo" is inside <xmp>.

I like the use of markdown for this kind of purpose but i'd rather just compile from markdown to the generated HTML and put that online for a better user experience (no flash of unstyled markdown content) and possibly better Google indexing.

That's fair. I personally wrote Strapdown since I couldn't find a really simple Markdown framework that generated beautiful docs and Just Worked(TM) :)

Oh yeah, it generates great output for sure, I might just write a simple wrapper (in PhantomJS or whatever) to automate the compilation step using a markdown document and strapdown, or if I'm lazy I'll just save the generated code from the Chrome inspector :)

Funny how there are so many overlapping ideas, I just started work on an OSS MarkDown-based site generator using Bootswatch themes as well. Nice work on Strapdown.

I really love this approach. It simplifies a lot of back and forth that I have to do on a server, even with all the plugins to make things easier, front end is the right place to do this. So, thank you.

Did someone come across any stats about markdown adoption/acceptance among regular users over richtext editors?

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