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Is it still possible to plumb hot water into such dishwashers? Then the heating element have less work...

I bet some manufacturers don't even use temperature sensors in many models, and just assume an approximate incoming water temperature, and heat for a fixed time period according to calculations on amount of water in the system. This guess comes from the impression that cheap temperature sensing circuitry isn't the most reliable long-term.

If true, that is a recipe for a lawsuit if it went wrong.

How did you conclude that they aren't the most reliable long-term?

Temperature sensing is extremely simple and cheap. Bi-metal contacts have been used since the dawn of electronics, and the solid state versions are also really simple. (Making components that are temperature invariant is the hard task.)

Fair question! My speculation here comes from thermistors being relatively common replacement parts. (clothes dryers, ovens) As you mentioned, temperature-invariant is tricky, and I think it's often a non-linear but close-enough for the design. I have the impression a failure mode can be if the temperature-response behavior changes over time.

A bi-metal contact is only good for a single temperature, I think? (can be adjustable like thermostats) (I'm sure many but not all dish-washers probably do only need a single temperature...)

I bet you're wrong. Is there a website where we can make an adjudicated bet JUST against each other. How many dishwashers come without a hot-wash option? Any dishwasher that didn't heat water enough would struggle with hard fats.

My dishwasher has a scalding 75°C option.

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