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Comment by wiz21c | Hacker News Reader

I think the point was: Trump is just a symptom, not the disease...

For all of us who have "lost" family members to propaganda, I worry that Fox "News" is the disease.

Let's be real "Fox News" isn't a spinning black and white wheel that hypnotizes you or has some other movie like power.

People are responsible for their views. Especially if they don't look into other viewpoints, consider it they are being lied to, etc.

I think that was possibly the case in the days of print newspapers. But I'm not sure I can blame individuals that are targeted all day every day by global corporations messaging them.

They are getting brainwashed by Twitter, Facebook, "News" websites, Televisions.

Billions are being spent every day to mould your thoughts to their desires.

How does a single individual fight that?

It's like saying "Jesus and personal responsibility" will save you from your heroin addiction.

>It's like saying "Jesus and personal responsibility" will save you from your heroin addiction.

Is the heroin addict seeking help?

I should have been clearer than I was, you're not wrong, I just find nearly everything is more nuanced than we allow for in discourse these days, and I have sympathy for people because I, too, found it hard to eat healthy and exercise enough when I was an executive with an 11 hour work day due to a 2:45 hour combined daily commute.

And I was a distance runner for 20 years.

>I have sympathy for people because I, too, found it hard to eat healthy and exercise enough when I was an executive with an 11 hour work day

So you were overweight and/or ate poorly..But you wanted to be healthy?

This analogy, along with the drug addict one, doesn't work because 1. They don't believe they are doing something wrong 2. Aren't trying to fix the issue.

>nuanced

Then let's get deeper here. Offer up an argument with some nuance. My viewpoint isn't (I hope) contingent on ignoring the complexities of the situation

Trump is a disease, the tools he uses are the opportunities given to adapt Putin's template for the American Empire.

Trump is the one in power and he's following an autocratic takeover playbook. So by all means push back.

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