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A lot was lost in the midterms and Supreme Court appointments.

Hopefully these 4 years energize people to vote. I know protesting and direct action and so on are also important, but the gradient is not negative for voting for every office you can vote for in every election.

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I'm scared that elections won't be secure, especially with the way the Republicans are trying to (arguably unconstitutionally) wield federal power to force individual states to change their systems in abrupt ways.

I fear the situation either ends badly or in a bloodshed. They aren't respecting the courts, so assuming they will accept defeat in elections is naive.

Maybe that's the only way that people can learn.

People can learn once the world puts most of its money into education.

The unfortunate part is that education is often also part of propaganda and spinning history for said propaganda. These days I wish education had a bigger emphasis on history and history should be looked at from different angles, like how the same thing is being taught from different angles.

No. Look at the bloodshed in the Middle East. Man is a bad animal.

> Hopefully these 4 years energize people to vote.

This euphemism has to end. I think you mean: "Hopefully these 4 years energize people to vote Democrat".

Why not just say it plainly instead of using supposedly non-partisan language? This neutral phrasing seems to be an appeal to a "silent majority" that agrees with you and disagrees with Republican leadership. What if that silent majority doesn't exist?

> Hopefully these 4 years energize people to vote

You are assuming there will be next elections that are free, fair, and matter.

Trump says a lot of things that ultimately doesn't matter, but he has also said, and is the type of brute to believe it, that he intends to stay in power. He and his cronies have successfully dismantled the checks and balances that should have prevented him from doing they, legally. IMO the only way he leaves the White House without stirring trouble is in a casket.

Let's pray that his health suffers, in that case. I am so unbelievably tired of reading the news and seeing another pillar of civilization dismantled.

I would rather that he stays alive for the rest of his term. I am more scared of the damage that could be done by Vance. Trump is inept and easy to manipulate, but is fairly predictable in his actions. Vance and his technocrat bros could cause a lot more damage on the other hand. I'll take the devil we "know".

Yes, the next elections are all I have to look forward to really.

Given the current government has blown off an unanimous 9-0 supreme court decision, right now I can't feel too optimistic there will even be more elections.

I think there will be more elections, but I think they will be fraudulent, because I think Trump has shown he is adept at turning things around and then trying to pretend that what he's doing is analogous to what the other side has done.

For example, a lot of people have forgotten, but the phrase "fake news" originally came about in the wake of the 2016 election about all the (actually false) misinformation that was spread on social media in the run up to the election. Trump adeptly then co-opted the term, so any news he didn't like he could just call it "fake news", and who was to say any news he called fake was any less fake than what people were calling fake before?

My guess is the 2028 elections will be marked by fraud, and then when people protest or object, Trump and the Republicans will just say "Hey, you called all those Jan 6 protesters traitors and said the election was secure, how is now any different? Now you're all the traitors."

The only belief that gives me hope these days is "History will judge the complicit."

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