U.S. banks told to make plans for preventing collapse

This isn't an argument. It's rhetoric. If it were an argument, it would attempt to establish the criteria for deciding whether a particular set of government programs and the means for paying for them were ideal. Surely there must be some level of democratically ordained wealth redistribution that would qualify as "mooching", no?

And what exactly do you think will happen to entrepreneurs who continue to build more infrastructure for future generations as the cost of working within our system begins to outweigh its benefits?

Those roads exist because people had to get somewhere. In the beginning, those somewheres were private Trading Posts that were often setup at the crossroads of Indian trails or the confluences of rivers. The successful Trading Posts gradually attracted more settlers and those settlers subsidized the construction and maintenance of the roads to and from the Trading Posts.

You have the cause and effect reversed. The successful entrepreneurs don't exist because of subsidized infrastructure. Subsidized infrastructure exists because of successful entrepreneurs.

Yes, we are "privileged to live in a sophisticated, organized, interdependent community". Does the rest of the community know this? No, and they're not demonstrating that at all. Just look over the past 100 years and tell me which generations knew they had it good and strived to continue that effort.

Only dead societies can tell the tales we're starting to.

They are there as some one is paying taxes.

People are worried about a middle class segment of crowd being taxed to teeth and every body else really leeching on their contributions. Look at it, corporations play every trick valid by the rule book to avoid paying taxes. Rich have their money parked in tax havens. Poor need social security.

The middle class is heavily burdened by taxes.

On top of this government wants to be in endless wars. Most of which makes zero sense. The rich at wall street- most of who are practically adding zero value. They earn the most, and demand the most financial security in case of economic collapses. They take zero responsibilities for their actions. If all this had happened with some ordinary citizens they would go to jail. When you look at all this, it looks like a cartel.

No wonder people are pissed.

Note: I am Indian, staying in Bangalore. I am not a US citizen.

That's all find and dandy, but the fact is that there are millions out there sitting on their collective assess while the few of us are doing the work.

There are roads, bridges, education, internet, all accessible to them as well, yet they do nothing.

But more importantly;

"Entrepreneurs(with a big E) get subsidized security, roads, mail, water, food, electricity, education, health care, etc."

I'm pretty sure it's the other way around. The taxes levied on businesses and individuals pay for the (often shoddy and wasteful) infrastructure and services.

Just because they get those things, doesn't mean it's the best way to get them, or that they wouldn't prefer to get them in some other way.

I'll give you an example. Take a look at LIBOR (somebody should, 'cause the mean-stream media has hardly mentioned it):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal

From CNN: "Libor is the world's most important benchmark for interest rates. Roughly $10 trillion in loans -- including credit card rates, car loans, student loans and adjustable-rate mortgages -- as well as some $350 trillion in derivatives are tied to Libor."

Please tell me how this benefits anybody.

HFT doesn't create any value. You take already created wealth and based on demand supply equations some one looses and some one gains. Think of it like a kilogram of potatoes changing 100 hands in a day during some make money and some lose depending on how the demand for potatoes is in a city. The HF traders don't actually do anything to grow potatoes or help the process of growing potatoes.

That is where the problem begins. When a part of the society just refuses to contribute their share, but still expects that other absolutely must. You can't really justify contributing to "effect of the society".

Its difficult to understand why one should pay for economic troubles of HF traders, especially when they are known to cheat on taxes, when they take 0 responsibilities for their actions and above all don't add any value.

A man definitely benefits a lot from the collective contributions of the society. But those benefits apply equally to everybody, yet please note not every one achieves the same things in life as everybody else. There fore to now say the sum total of a man's accomplishments is all due to society is wrong. That is why a man contributes back only as much as what he benefited.

Therefore, take responsibilities for both your successes and failures. Applies not just to individual but to every other entity like corporations and banks. Its difficult to understand why a common man should bail out a bank. While the common man has already contributed his fair share of taxes.

If I make a mistake or do well. I take responsibility for both my successes and failures. So should banks and corporations. Both should contribute their share of taxes. But you almost always see, that the rich and powerful cheat yet benefit from the taxes contributed by everybody else. Same with the poor.

Yet the middle class is always expected to pay up for every body Else's party.

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All Property, indeed, except the Savage's temporary Cabin, his Bow, his Matchcoat, and other little Acquisitions, absolutely necessary for his Subsistence, seems to me to be the Creature of public Convention. Hence the Public has the Right of Regulating Descents, and all other Conveyances of Property, and even of limiting the Quantity and the Uses of it. All the Property that is necessary to a Man, for the Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other Laws dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it.

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