Louisiana prison board uses algorithms to determine eligility for parole
propublica.org
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial
did people not understand the historical context of his work when they did read him?
A parole board can have dissent and differing personal experience in its ranks. There can be disagreement, but that discussion might lead to a more right or more wrong outcome.
When you have the number spit out from some case management, there's no arguing with it. We just turned the programmers that wrote that bit of code into unassailable gods of the process, with whom we can only communicate with through Jira tickets. It isn't more right or more wrong, but it is consistent with the variables provided. That mindless consistency applied to human situations like this quickly becomes horrific.
Cory Doctorow - The future of Amazon coders is the present of Amazon warehouse workers
https://pluralistic.net/2025/03/13/electronic-whipping/#your...
Omits the most important one: Children. Will children raised on computers with schoolboard spyware on it, testing applications that monitor your face, etc. flinch when the state attempts to employ similar on them as adults? Will they shy away from these tools themselves when they take the reigns of power?
"Once that's done, you can move on to people with more social power – immigrants, blue collar workers, school children."
He was sentenced as a fourth felony habitual offender having had 5 previous convictions for cocaine possession and a previous conviction for possession with intent to distribute.
In addition, an appeals court found the 20 year sentence illegally lenient (he should have been sentenced to 30 years) but because neither the state nor the defendant brought it up, declined to correct this.
You’re going to need to do better than that for this crowd.
> An algorithm is just a method saved in a computer
No it isn't "just" that. It's quite a bit more specific than that.
For a sequence of steps to be an algorithm, it has to:
1. provably terminate, with—
2. the correct answer
(Every time, that is.)
Recommender systems and other programs created to help with things that have no correct answer belong to a class of procedures that are the exact opposite of what the word "algorithm" is supposed to communicate.
Anyone who has gotten paid to write something that involved the word "algorithm" in the last 10 years should give serious consideration to jumping off a bridge.
They are often just tools to perpetuate inequities in plain site.
They do not do this “inherently.” They don’t do it at all if they don’t have or create a feedback mechanism.
Problem is we have not automated the process of identifying and updating the assumptions for a given problem.
A set of rules followed by anything (including humans) is an algorithm.
Stories like this blame computers because that's easier on everyone's reputations than blaming the people who made the rules.
I've always wondered this about the many algorithms that keep getting used. They're being kept out of democratic decision making. It's always a committee somewhere in the executive that decides on the algorithm, not parliament, or any kind of elected board. They are implemented as a cost control.
https://www.windowscentral.com/british-government-reported-a... (previously discussed here; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30736887)
1) what are my rights, I.e. Against what constraints was the algorithm implemented?
2) "we have decided": who is "we", it's actually good that a particular entity is responsible for the output of the algorithm, computers can't be responsible for things.
3) is there appeal or human review?
If a bad algorithm is part of some process that affects me I'm going to ask what my rights are, who's responsible and where I can appeal, not the specifics of the algorithm.
Funny enough I read not that long ago about a case where an algorithm broke all those three points! Can’t remember where of the top of my mind, I think it was the Louisiana Prison board or something like that.
But never mind that, you are arguing against yourself so I’ll kindly step aside and let you at you.
They are not OP. Even if they are, why not just engage with the points they raise?