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I’ve observed that generalizations are usually wrong. There are plenty of MAGA people who care about the environment, and there are indeed MAGA people who couldn’t care less too.

It’s also strange to single out MAGA on cognitive dissonance- everyone, regardless of political affiliation has it.

At the end of the day blame the two party system. There are hundreds of thousands of people who voted for Obama and Trump, Biden and then Trump again. Let that sink in.

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MAGA is level 10 on it. They went from the hardcore Christian party to supporting the biggest crook American politics has ever seen, that isn't even capable of basic kindness. Same with veterans. A draft dodger, that has called our fallen soldiers losers, and skipped out on ceremonies honoring them, that presidents traditionally attend. MAGA jumped from deficit hawks, to supporting huge tax cuts that will explode the deficit. It's not even close who is worse here.

I think we’d agree that trump is maga, but is every voter for trump?

While everyone has the ability to have cognitive dissonance, please don't ignore the reality that MAGA is a bunch of weirdo cultist fuckos brainwashed by extremist propaganda media.

It's not much of a generalization if I'm talking about the people in my community. YMMV.

It’s still generalization even if it’s about people in your community…

If I talk about people in Brooklyn broadly is it not a generalization because it’s my community? lol

No wonder political discourse is completely broken.

I'm not talking about my city - I'm talking about the people on my fishing forums, or who I meet down by the river.

The talking point about Brooklyn is about as dumb a "Gotcha" as you'd expect in:

> political discourse is completely broken.

The majority of MAGA don't care about the environment (especially wrt climate change), and in fact probably no longer believe that pollution is harmful.

I would not be surprised if smoking also makes a comeback as MAGA types continue down the anti-science crusade and pour scorn on the link between smoking and lung cancer and other types of health outcomes.

I mean, I don't understand how you could care about the environment and vote for Trump.

He's actively unwinding decades of environmental policy and protections, destaffing and defunding national parks, and opening up logging 100MM acres which will be gone in no time at all.

He's the kind of guy that says "we are going to have the cleanest air and water" and then literally does the opposite policy wise.

Trees are a renewable resource. It won't be gone at all. Not only that, but the US is actually logging at a slower rate than trees are growing. We are currently gaining over 2000 square miles of forest every year.

This is because we import most of our lumber, which is not going to happen any more.

We can wipe all of that out and then wait 20 years.

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