Lawmakers are skeptical of Zuckerberg's commitment to free speech
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Not a legal positioning, a social pressuring.
If a society values and protects free speech, we would observe institutions, businesses, and individuals being very permissive and polite to speech they find objectionable.
If it doesn't, we would observe that its government doesn't care much about free speech either.
Free speech involves making sometimes uncomfortable sacrifices for a principle. Why would anyone support a government making such sacrifices if they don't believe in making such sacrifices at an individual level?
Freedom of speech, in the other hand, is part of a moral code that believes in inalienable rights, that humans implicitly have the right to express themselves. The government does not grant the right to freedom of speech, because we already have it. The first amendment says that the government must respect that right, but creating the right.
That's a bit vague. Nothing about this statement on its face would preclude some speech regulations so it reads more like an empty platitude to me.
That is a recursive and meaningless definition. Free speech is widely understood, and codified, as being able to say stuff without having the government send you to jail for it. That is a pretty basic requirement for a functional democracy. Altough, depending on where you live, even free speech does not mean fully free. In the U.S it is mostly limited by libel/defamation, but in a lot of country hate speech is not allowed. Whether you think it is a good thing or not that is up to you, but this is actual free speech.
The number of people using social media makes it the town square of the present. We should treat it as such.
- I don’t feel a right to decide the vibe of how a business curates its space. My bakery, coffee shop, local library, etc. all curate a space with an opinion. I don’t feel I have standing to assert that my preferences should dominate their choices.
As an aside, businesses are also an extension of the people, the best ones tend to just not be mode collapsed
First, commercial speech is certainly speech. If you don't restrict anything at all, your platform will drown in a constant deluge of spam. So on that basis alone there's something you must remove if you want to have any kind of conversations happening, and therefore can't be an actual absolutist.
Second, there's illegal and just icky content. Posting pictures of poo isn't illegal. It can be "speech" after a fashion. That will also quickly result in people leaving.
Third, a free-for-all is only tolerable to a small segment of the population. HN for instance only works because it's moderated and curated. You can have something like r/worldpolitics which embodies the "no moderation" ideal. It's a subreddit where the moderators do the absolute minimum Reddit requires. Meaning it's mostly porn. And what's the point in having more than one of those? They're all more or less the same.
"Social media" should not be a hyper-concentrated collection of advertising targets. That single aspect has probably caused 99% of "social medial ills.
Then try yelling racial slurs in your local town square and see how that goes for ya.
> I don't understand this position. Why do people want private companies to decide what's allowed and what isn't? Shouldn't lawmakers, and by extension the people (at least in democratic countries) decide what speech is allowed and what isn't?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to police what can be said on my private property ? If you are in my home yelling racist stuff, I will ask you to leave, and make you leave if you refuse. I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do the same on my plateform. If you want to yell racial slurs, you can go to truth social or whatever.
By centralizing communication like Facebook has, they’ve placed themselves in the funky place of being the arbiter for communication through their social graph. You don’t own your audience, they do. You don’t have direct to audience communication (even if your audience is just your friends and family!) - they do.
Facebook owns the content delivery channel. And so they control what is permitted to flow through that channel.
I honestly don’t think there is a role government has to play in this [1]. This isn’t a regulation thing IMO, it’s an architecture thing. I think the solution is to agree with you on your points and build platforms that allow people to communicate directly with their audience without having to go through any centralized gate keeper.
[1] other than stopping the laundering of 1st amendment violations they’ve committed through the loophole of separating censorship “requests” from enforcement.
> By centralizing human communication like Facebook has, they’ve placed themselves in the funky place of being the arbiter for communication through their social graph. You don’t own your audience, they do. You don’t have direct to audience communication (even if your audience is just your friends and family!) - they do.
Respectfully mate, how is that any different than radio, TV and newspaper before ? If anything, it is far better now, you have at least many platform to choose from and you can host your own.
But it’s a quirky bug we’ve discovered in scaling the architecture of the web that we are going to address.
Soon you’re going to own your own content distribution channels.
>Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
[1]: https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-huma...
But even by the U.N definition, the only part that could be of concern here is "receive and impart information and ideas through any media", but how exactly would that be put in place ? It is not like you can go to your local radio station and ask them to give you the mic since this is your right to impart information and ideas through any media.
Similarly with internet. You can make your own web server. You can't just hijack someone else's web server or send government goons to make them say what you want.
The current state of jurisprudence on this is nearer than you think to the side of Youtube must not violate your first amendment rights. I think the original reasoning mostly holds, despite youtube not being an actual town.
A large percentage of people genuinely buy into the "just world" fallacy, regardless of whether they consciously recognize this. They believe that if someone is in a position of power, they deserve to have that power.
Of course, many of them also believe that, variously, the world is inherently just, people are inherently good, or the world's structure is ordained by a loving God. Therefore, these people deserving power isn't just Fated, it's also because they're better people. Smarter, better leaders, possessed of the qualities that fit one to rule.
Therefore, "the people in power are smart, have the best interests of the many at heart, and are worth listening to" is effectively axiomatic for a great many people in our society.
Dangerous loophole!
Regulation and enforcement has to come from somewhere and it won’t be Meta.
https://netchoice.org/democrat-leaders-dont-like-the-first-a...
[0]: https://netchoice.org/about/#our-mission
[1]: https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-probes-ftc-chair-k...
Isn't Krebs getting investigated by the secret services for saying unpopular things?
Facebook is completely different from cable news. Nothing in history has encompassed marshall mcluhan's idea of the global village quite like modern social media has. The grip that Facebook has on our central nervous system is unparalleled and we talk about it in terms of "fairness" and "representing viewpoints" and not "biologically, neurologically, how is this technology fundamentally changing what it means to be a human being".
I don't know how to pass legislation to do so, but I believe it's in our best interests, as a society, if the maximum natural size of a website is like, 100k users, MAX. With the diversity of communities available, fairness of moderation will no longer be as important because you have more alternatives than the billionaire consensus factory
You are of course correct, as far as scale, but I can't help feeling skeptical about how equivalent its effects are when compared to old media. On VJ day, practically every American read the headline in one of a handful of the nation's biggest newspapers. Today, we'd find this news from a post by our favorite influencer, with a built-in twist to boost engagement. There's no doubt social media has blanketed our society in its influence. but the signal has been completely scattered, lost in the sea of noise. In terms of simply learning new things, it's in one ear and out the other. You can learn all kinds of things through social media, but it requires a great deal of effort to weed out the torrent of irrelevant, useless junk data.
Not a linear scale, really.
Where it gets muddy though is during COVID+Social Media, we found a new threat against speech, e.g. the suppression of "reach" which accomplishes the exact same goal as suppressing speech, but it's legality is clouded by semantics.
So we desperately need new laws clarifying that government officials may not suppress 'reach' just because they don't like what a person or persons are saying, and most importantly we need it crystal clear that this applies even in the face of a pandemic, so that the government's embedded rent seekers can't once again force a lying narrative on the people that nobody can find their way out of, save for those who engage in 'conspiracy theories' and listen to 'conspiracy theorists'.
No, it really doesn't.
The wisdom of the crowds has some domains where it's good, and others where it's bad.
Bandwagons, groupthink, whatever you want to call it, that effect is also real. If I pick a random person and ask them what they think the "basic truths" of COVID are, 20-40% of the stuff they will say will still be false today — it just doesn't matter any more that they're wrong.
I feel this should be easy to spot by having two large populations that hold mutually incompatible beliefs, such as the way Americans love the 2nd amendment while the UK bans not only guns but also knives in pubic without good reason.
If there is evidence of improper coersion by government employees, for example threatening to withhold public funding or permitting based on political views, that would likely be illegal and indeed should be handled by the judicial branch.
That's neither what the First Amendment says explicitly nor how it is applied by the courts (though the way each of those differs from your description is quite distinct.)
To me, we should be less concerned with how a platform is moderated and more concerned with the fact that the most successful, influential, and devious publishing empire in human history is essentially the personal property of one man.
It's very difficult to serve immense numbers of people with social media. Scaling takes resources and technical expertise and lots of energy. You could treat it like trying to catch pot growers by watching their electric bills. I don't think there's a way around that, technically: to do the monoculture (and control it) absolutely requires intention, resources and concentration of effort in an obvious way.
Yeah, you can secretly administer multiple internet social communities and pretend it's not you, but that already happens too, and it's less effective than the monoculture, plus if you're doing that it smells funny, makes people ask 'why are we being governed to think this way through secret avenues' which is something people strangely don't ask about the monoculture.
Whether you can get society to sign on to this 'central control can get this big and no bigger' is much like asserting 'rich men can get this rich and no richer'.