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Vim has snippets too. I'm sure there's an Eclipse/Visual Studio plugin that provides the same functionality. There's really nothing revolutionary in here.

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Thanks for pointing this out, and I don't disagree. It's debatable whether TextMate was revolutionary or a huge leap ahead of the competition at the time. But batista claimed that "Textmate was always a sub-par editor" and implied that its success was due to hype, not its capabilities, which I find hard to accept as true.

I'm not claiming that TextMate was the best choice, just that it's unfair to call it a bad choice or sub-par. It was a very solid, decent text editor.

They came built-in with TextMate - big difference to be a first-class member of the editor.

textmate is appealing because it always had a great default configuration. For many people getting old-school editors to play well required too much config ninjaing.

Vim does have snippets, the plugin is called snip-mate. Why do you suppose that is? ;)

Vim has dozen of snippet scripts: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script_search_results.php?keyword...

They do, but 2 of the top 3 mention TextMate in the title!!

Vim had abbreviations way before TextMate has been created. Think about that.

Doesn't matter, you'd still have to learn Vim first.

Textmate is about bringing unix and scripting power to people who don't have time to learn an esoteric system

> people who don't have time to learn an esoteric system if they had time to learn a programming language why they don't have time to learn how to speak with Vim? also I don't think that vim commands are more "esoteric" than (eg) objective-c and actually, if you are short of time then you should learn to code faster with a faster text editor like Vim (or Emacs of you prefer..)

imo the real problem is laziness

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