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The Chinese are warning their citizens about travel to the U.S.

> China issued an alert warning its citizens and students of the potential risk of traveling in the U.S. and attending schools there. > > “Recently, due to the deterioration of China-US economic and trade relations and the domestic security situation in the United States, the Ministry of Culture and Tourism reminds Chinese tourists to fully assess the risks of traveling to the United States and be cautious,” the ministry said in an alert.

Can't blame them honestly

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Many EU countries have done the same in recent weeks. This is less about putting diplomatic pressure, and more about warning people to avoid traveling to the US due to real danger.

There is no real danger so this is mostly diplomatic pressure.

Have you ever experienced being detained by CBP?

No I haven't because the odds of it happening to an ordinary person are a rounding error, now and at any other point in time.

Nobody wants to be that rounding error.

German and another Europeans were detained by ICE and ended up spending weeks in solitary confinement, past their plane back.

The US government has already been rounding people up who haven’t committed a crime. Most notably a student from Columbia college. This is a real danger.

They've also been shipping people off to a prison in El Salvador without due process and, according to them, no way to bring them back if they send the wrong person.

Avoiding travel to the US right now is a perfectly reasonable decision.

Nope, all those warnings were basically "make sure your paperwork/visa is in order" and "gender on passport has to be the one assigned on birth"

I have a trip to China on Saturday and I'm worried about:

a. Chinese retaliation. I don't think they are going to start arresting Americans, but it might get uncomfortable if I don't have my passport in the subway station.

b. American retaliation. My wife has a greencard, this is actually worrying me more than anything, although as far as I have heard so far, we should be OK.

Trip is still on. I'm really interested in how China has changed since I left 8 years ago.

Totalitarian countries like China and Russia routinely arrest American visitors to use them as negotiation chips. Be careful.

America's started arresting visitors from any country to use as negotiation chips so is it officially totalitarian now?

Multiple European countries have issued travel warnings for the US too.

Travel warnings like "make sure your paperwork is in order" yeah?

The citizens of other countries should be concerned too. Even short term plans could end badly for some disruptive measure Trump because whatever, as he did basically every week since he got in charge.

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