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Fascism is slow until it is fast.

People who study Fascism and Russian/Eastern European history at at least one of America's top universities are fleeing the country: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/the-fascism-expert-at-...

It isn't clear to me that post sentencing, the law forbids this. I don't like it, I didn't like reading about the historical precedents in French penal law much either (Dreyfus aside, "Papillon" is only part of the story. They also exiled the communards to New Caledonia) -But it was legal in french law, and this may be legal in US law.

Deporting people before trial, during trial and legal process, sending US citizens and residents with paperwork approval offshore, rescinding their rights arbitrarily or in defiance of Judicial ruling, ignoring basic rights, thats shit too, but it's different to what happens to somebody when sentenced to incarceration.

Note that the headline is misleading. Trump isn’t talking about “deportations” to a country of origin, but exile/sale to a brutal prison system in El Salvador.

Who has jurisdiction over these prisoners? Apparently, no one. The goal is to disappear them into a legal black hole.

Calling CECOT a prison does a lot of heavy lifting. People are kept 20+ to a cell, without even basic amenities like running water or mattresses. The salvadoran government openly states that nobody will ever be released from the 'prison' [1]. These conditions are harsher than even the conditions nazis kept victims of the holocaust in. It is overtly a death camp, which the salvadoran government built as a backward way of getting rid of poor people by exterminating them rather than meaningful policy to improve the lives of it's citizens.

[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-81749d7c-d0a0-48d0-... 'El Salvador’s authorities have stated that they do not expect Cecot’s prisoners to ever be released.'

I foresee:

"Oh well we did it can't do anything about it now." - Trump administration

"Oh well" - SCOTUS

I assume this will be primarily used for “violent” protestors?

It’s kind of weird to me that they hate protestors so much since I think people are mixed on the protestors, and any good will they have for being “victimized” by the protestors will be lost.

It will be used against anyone who is inconvenient.

They will throw people who criticize the government into work camps and use being deported to the CECOT death camp as a threat to keep them productive and compliant.

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