You’re separating liquids from solids. They each have their merits. The problem is industrial fruit produces a juice that is unlike anything in nature vis-à-vis sugar content.
Please explain how the two sugar waters are different.
I said industrialised fruit to refer to the orange. They’re much sweeter now than even in the 60s. There isn’t a practical difference between store-bought and fresh-squeezed juice (that I know of) other than, in some cases, preservatives, and the fact that with fresh-squeezed juice you have a tactile measure of the fruit going into the squeeze and so don’t tend to have e.g. a kid pouring themselves a tall glass of orange juice representing the juice of ten oranges.
Fruit has also been bred to be much sweeter and less nutritious than it was 50 years ago, so there's that too.
Moderation is the key to everything.
A reasonable way to look at it is as a flat, fortified Mountain Dew. Great as a treat. Bad as a habit, at least with modern oranges.
Of course not. But a kid raised on a high-sugar diet, particularly if reïnforced repetitively through habit, is going to have a tougher time eating healthy than someone who learned to see sugary drinks as a treat.