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I used to be good at this. And then I bought a Mac. I don’t miss this.

Not to rain on your Mac-triumphant lap, but Apple has a long list of suggestions for sleep and wake issues: https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/if-your-mac-sleeps-...

And i'll worry once I hit any one of them. So far: none.

Better keep my link handy. ;)

I’ve been using a macbook as my main driver for 5 years, never had an issue.

Judging by the content of that link, this is probably for Intel based devices. The Apple Silicon based ones are basically giant iPads. I don’t ever remember an iPad having an issue with sleep. And they’ve existed for a decade or more now. I honestly don’t expect to need that link.

The only time I’ve had trouble with Macs sleeping recently is when they have wake on LAN enabled. Switching that off makes sleep work as expected.

Hm. I have a Macbook M3 and it doesn’t come up from sleep every third time or so, freezing and then force-restarting all running apps in the background. Most other times it takes up to a minute to show the login screen. No idea how to debug. Still hoping for some update to magically fix it.

You must be lucky. I've wasted hours or tens of hours diagnosing sleep issues on my mac. What's infuriating is that this used to "just work" and was a major selling point for MacOs. It was one of the reasons that made me abandon an experiment to switch to using a Linux laptop. Windows was even worse.

I now avoid leaving my MacBook unplugged overnight because I fear the battery draining to zero will cause it damage. This has happened a number of times when I've had some heavy Safari pages open when closing the lid. Some other process wakes the OS and now Safari stars chewing up power.

I tried systematically dealing with each cause and eliminated most of them but am still plagued by a few issues including some mDNSResponder stuff that is ungoogleable.

Nothing that the Macbook has done while "helpfully" waking from sleep has EVER provided any value to me while on multiple occasions, it has caused issue by draining the battery - which, long term, is actually damaging to the hardware. I wish I could have the old MacOS Sleep behavior back.

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