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EU: These are scary times – let's backdoor encryption

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I haven't actually looked at the numbers but my impression is that all those attempts are coming from people from the more developed and less corrupt northern countries. Maybe from their perspective you can trust the state to do the right thing %100 of the time? I don't know if that's the case but whoever is coming up with these must be living under the rock because anyone following what's happening the last few years and especially the last few weeks must be terrified of giving too much information to the state because in fact the developments in the USA show us that the state can be captured and data can be accessed by people outside of the legal frameworks. Even if your state is perfect, your mortal enemy can indeed take over and have access to these tools to do god knows what.

I expect this attempt to fail like all previous attempts as there are enough people with sense in the EU.

Ursula has been in the center of every privacy violation attempt and she's German. The mandatory on device scanning proposal (next meeting is April 8th) now has majority support with votes from all over EU, notable not Finland's nor Estonia's (not yet anyway, their personal has changed).

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> coming from people from the more developed and less corrupt northern countries

Your opinions, not facts.

Corruption in Nordic countries, especially Sweden has been on the rise for 2 decades.

Yes, they have high trust and want to use the state to improve their society.

It’s been working well for them, so why wouldn’t they.

High trust or ostrich attitude?

Looking at this recent post [1], the later is more probable.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43493412

Because "high trust" involving centralizing a huge amount of power tends to work really well until it suddenly fails catastrophically. Which it tends to do on a scale around a human lifetime, sometimes a bit shorter, sometimes a bit longer.

No need to back up your general conclusion, I’ll take it at face value. Thanks for your contribution :)

Looked at the USA recently?

They never give up. Nor will any other government. Specific people are judged to need non back-door crypto. That's not ordinary people.

No amount of input from the wider community changes posture here. The people involved accept the political reality in the moment but they never give up.

This won't stop. They only have to succeed once. When they succeed, using a crypto system without a back-door is by definition a crime, and so the statement "only criminals need a crypto system without a back door" is a truism.

The best form of encryption is a one-time pad. It is mathematically proven to be unbreakable, unlike every other form of encryption. If you can exchange a 100MiB pad file with each contact, you should be set for life if all you exchange is text messages.

This will never stop as long as Ursula and extremists like her are in charge of EU Commission. How much did all of this work to take away your rights and privacy cost you in taxes? How much time has been and will be wasted on this?

Ursula is not fit to lead EU.

This isn't to protect EU citizen, this is because American amd Israeli companies have a technology to sell and individual politicans were promised payouts. Disgusting.

As stupid as Trump's actions look (tariffs being the most stupid for me as non-US) this move of EU is a strong competitor, especially in the current international situation.

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