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I think the fact that you're being downvoted for your comment proves your point.

There is a difference between downvoting and flagging, and between flagging and moderating.

I said nothing about that.

The effect is the same — the comment becomes unreadable.

And me pointing it out is also being downvoted.

Probably because a single example at a single time point can't really be extrapolated to the entire platform across all times. The comment being downvoted proves nothing (as evidenced by the fact it's now upvoted to the 2nd top comment!)

And this comment of yours I'm replying to will probably get downvoted because it's a complaint about votes that contributes literally nothing to the conversation (in fact, detracts from it).

> because it's a complaint about votes

It's not a complaint. I'm just pointing them out. Without them I couldn't argue my case at all.

Yes, because the comments are offtopic and against the site guidelines (see the bottom of https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html).

"I the noble freethinker, standing bravely against the mob" comments are boring and repetitive, and therefore always off topic.

It's exactly my point that it's impossible to be critical of these guidelines on here, and I think that's a problem.

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