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Also thought it's a meme until I saw a YC job ad for a vibe coder: https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/domu-technology-inc/jo...

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> Domu is an enterprise voice AI startup crushing it in the financial services industry

> Solve deep product problems like how to collect more money with a voice AI agent.

> Ready to grind long hours, including weekends, to hit our ambitious goals.

Vomit inducing.

According to the top echelons of YC, vibe coders are "1000x engineers". Add in 15-hour days and you can probably expect that team of six to surpass AWS in features by next month.

They really are overplaying their hand here on this, aren't they?

Put 1000 vibe coders with 1000 Cursor editors in a room and, given infinite time, they’ll produce an almost complete version of fizzbuzz.

Also "putting in 12–15 hour days". I don't know what this company's value prop is but it's not their software.

"including weekends"

regular 8hrs + additional time to fix the mess made by blindly vibe coding without caring for what's being done

From the job posting it sounds like the company value prop is AI agents as debt collector? They want to “solve deep problems like collecting more money”. What a shitty dystopia we’re creating.

Tech just became yuppie 2.0, just like in the 80s and early 90s every sociopath looking for a large paycheck jumped into finance, in the 2010s onward it's been tech.

The founder appears to be Brazilian, and when I worked for a Brazilian company (very briefly) this was the vibe. it was very weird as this particular company often didn't seem to care about results, only the grind.

> Putting in 12 to 15-hour days, the engineering team has traveled to +10 cities in the past half-year for product launches.

Sounds like hell for an engineer.

I imagine they’re intentionally filtering for candidates desperate enough to put up with that, or naive enough to think that sounds cool.

They're going to end up with a candidate they deserve

Thought that listing was parody when I first saw it a week or so again. Since then the pay range has increased substantially -- originally it was, I believe, $80 - $120K for your "12 to 15 hour days", and onboarding that literally includes full time making collection calls, which...rofl.

EDIT - Both times I've joked about this ad, suddenly my account is rate limited and I can't post anything new without a "you're posting too fast" error. Maybe coincidence, but absolutely humorous.

HN should allow comments for job postings.

Stuff like this is exactly why they don't.

Ignoring all of the absolutely insane things about that job description.

Do they have a list of clients I can access, so I can avoid using any of their products? The first time I get a phone call from an AI bot starting with "I see you opened our email about...", I'm throwing my phone out the window.

> Do they have a list of clients I can access, so I can avoid using any of their products?

If I'm not mistaken they offer service to debt collection companies, if you know any way to avoid a given debt collection service please do let me know!

They have a few other use cases listed on their website.

since this is an AI company it's not entirely impossible that they're putting out these ads to portray a certain image, rather than to actually hire people...

-- edit "impossible" not "possible"

I mean...what image? The original listing had a terrible pay rate, they proudly boast that you'll be working 12-16 hour days and will start your employment making collection calls, which...I'd rather plunge toilets with my lips.

If that ad is trying to push an image, man they couldn't be failing worse. It looks pathetic.

Well, bending spoons openly admits you'll have to work harder than in other companies, and they're not startup either...

I've heard horror stories about them, ie interview processes being possibly tougher and longer than faang ones, and much more

The image that they’re forward thinking by embracing a trend that VCs love.

The image isn’t for potential employees, it’s for VCs and hype.

"Do things that don't scale" should really be rewritten as "do things that make you wish you were cleaning toilets with your tongue instead".

YC frequently brags they don’t back ideas; they back founders. If that’s the case, it’s becoming quite clear to they back shitty people who openly exploit other human beings in search of profit.

Wait until you find out doctors only treat desperately sick people, teachers only teach dumb kids and lawyers work with criminals.

None of that is true. Doctors generally treat whoever comes to them, and sometimes may refuse to treat desperately sick people (see women who died in the US because doctors refuse to treat them after a miscarriage). Teachers teach whoever is in their class. You don’t need to have committed a crime to require a lawyer, even something as simple as writing a contract applies.

But even if what you claimed had made any sense, it would still have been completely irrelevant and added nothing to the conversation.

Crickets

the image is that of "doing serious stuff by letting the AI do all the work". which is the promise of vibe coding, as well as the more general promise of this company.

I refuse to believe this is a real company or a real job ad

I only got two sentences in and can't help but read that job listing like it was written by Jean-Ralphio from Parks and Rec.

I think this is still a meme.

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