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Let them do it.

We have no right to tell people they have to learn to climb to get to top of the Everest.

I can't draw but I want to create my Art using AI. What I now see is a bunch of people who associate their self worth with a rare talent and don't want others to join the party. I want to resolve the issues around copyright for training, but once this is out of the way I want to draw exclusively through AI because it's the only way I can do it. And I LIKE IT.

I'm a skilled pianist. The funny thing is that I heard similar criticisms about computer music a couple decades ago. "No playing skill needed". Despite knowing how to play, I'd rather do computer music nowadays anyway. Please stop telling me what I can and can't do!

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I'm not disagreeing with "let them do it", but the comparison with computer music isn't really fair.

Computer music, as it existed a couple decades ago, still played exactly what you asked it to, and it wasn't filling areas where you underspecified the music with a statistical model of trillions of existing songs. And that's the difference, for me: the ability to underspecify, and have the details be filled in and added in a way that to the audience will be perceived as intentful, but which is not.

Agreed - computer music compared to live music is what, say, Adobe Illustrator is to drawing. Or a Wacom drawing table, but definitely not prompting AI to draw for you.

Whether drawing (writing etc.) through AI counts as drawing (as making art) is a debate we have to resolve in the upcoming future.

Tell that to guitar effects, electronic music and anything that has any amount of randomness added

As soon as we get more control over AI output, those arguments will finally die their well deserved death

To those that AI art offend: don't think of people as artists, but simply as art directors dealing with stubborn artists that won't ever work to spec

It is possible to very critical of something without "not allowing people to do it".

Dismissing the argument that we are losing something in this "democratization of creativity" by fighting a strawman that says you are not allowed to participate instead is a bit lazy

Synth & Son: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrHZ6u5_eYw

>We have no right to tell people they have to learn to climb to get to top of the Everest.

My, my, you really took the worst example to defend your point. The Everest is now an overcrowded dumping ground full of cadavers, shit and trash, with idiots putting not only themselves but their sherpas and other mountaineers in danger due to their arrogance, lack of ability and shittiness.

>What I now see is a bunch of people who associate their self worth with a rare talent and don't want others to join the party.

What I see is a bunch of people creating digital doubles of existing artists without their consent and using it to make money.

>Please stop telling me what I can and can't do!

Oh the irony...

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