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OpenAI didn’t choose anything. This style simply happened to go viral. The model can do all sorts of stuff.

It will specifically stop you if you try and ask it for the style of Disney or marvel, while Sama specifically tweeted an example of Ghibli. There is very clearly a conscious choice around which companies IP they protect, and which they're happy to exploit (eg, not US companies).

Like the "Her" tweet, I suspect this is another moment of Sama being bloody thoughtless and may very well come and bit him in the ass when he inevitably tries to deny this in the future.

EDIT: Okay, really weirdly, I tried this when this first came out and definitely seemed to hit a content policy block. and now it works.

why would a us company care about Japanese copyright?

Ghibli films have been localized for and released in America.

By.. Disney

Yes.

Right. How are the administration’s relations with Disney right now?

That’s where we are. The laws doesn’t protect the proscribed.

Was just pointing that out since OP was saying it would refuse on Disney styles, though Disney doesn't have the copyright to Ghibli they still have US interests in the IP. But what he was saying doesn't seem to be true, it will do disney style drawings like it will do Ghibli.

(edit: from another reply it sounds like Disney is no longer the Ghibli distributor though, I guess that's why they are on HBO Max and not Disney+

Styles aren't copyrighted anyway, Steven Spielberg has produced Disney-style animated movies outside of Disney, and Disney has taken styles from others)

What logically follows is that non-us companies should also ignore US copyright

Good. Abolish it all.

This is an interesting point because it shows top-level control of output - by allowing one type of infringement rather than all types of infringement, it’s a human based decision. It’s only a matter of time before AI crosses into trademark domain issues and that’s where the big money lawyers will likely step in. As in, it harms the mark and it can be financially damaging unless stopped - and these systems clearly can be stopped from certain outputs.

Don't immediately believe what you read on Hacker News, certainly not to the point where you'd jump to such a significant conclusion over it.

ChatGPT is simply inconsistent about enforcing rules. Sometimes you ask it to generate an image and it says no, and then you ask it again in a slightly different way and it happily does it for you. One time I asked it to generate an image for me and it told me "I can't generate an image of Elon Musk but I can generate an image of someone who looks like Elon Musk. Let me know if you'd like me to do that instead", and the generated image looked exactly like Elon Musk.

I just asked it "Make an image of a karate fighter in the style of a disney animation" and it did it in distinct Disney style. What it produced did not look like public domain steamboat willy or anything either, more 60s era Disney.

Where are you getting this? It may have been after they reduced refusals recently and it wouldn't do it before?

Disney is also the Ghibli distributor in the US aren't they?

They are no longer but your main point stands. The guy you’re responding to is making up fake news

Incorrect. I just asked ChatGPT to show an image in the style of Disney/Pixar, and another in the style of a Marvel superhero. Both worked without complaint.

I would share the conversation but it's not generating a link ("Sharing conversations with user uploaded images is not yet supported.")

Strangely, if you're going to mess with IP in any country, Japan is one of the ones that you should not. Japanese law is infamously brutal about copyright and has no concept of fair use, so you can get smacked very easily by it.

I guess they don't have assets in Japan to risk and therefore don't care.

> I guess they don't have assets in Japan to risk and therefore don't care.

That's the benefit of being a corporation that keeps its physical presence in its home country, especially in the internet age. Perhaps the US gov could sponsor Starlink as a way to break local ISP bans…

You seem like the kind of person that would complain about “fake news”. You are literally generating fake news right now… a conspiracy theory even.

You are seeing what you want to see because of your personal idea of who Sam Altman is.

I literally just asked 4o to “create an image of a barista in the Disney animation style” and it did it without any issues.

To back up the poster, Open AI loosened their rules. Earlier this week I did “dark wing duck as a knight” and it generated half and then said it couldn’t due to copyright. The same prompt now returns the image. Assume good faith instead of flying off and accusing people of being blind acolytes based on your personal idea of who they are.

My guy Dark Wing Duck is IP. Ask the same of Pikachu or Mario.

The Disney or Ghibli or Capcom style is not. This is elementary stuff

>Sam Altman Promotes 4o Using Ghibli-Style Images

From: https://www.mindprison.cc/p/studio-ghibli-style-ai-art-crisi...

He could've chosen anything else.

He only cares about money. Perhaps he now likes to be an edgelord as well, created in the image of the modern Mammon, Musk.

He chose the Ghibli style because it's such a big meme right now. Clearly.

That article links to a tweet by a guy who is not sam altman starting the trend. It was already viral by the time sam did it.

True, but OpenAI did leverage it for all that could be gained. There was no hesitation on their part to consider if it was ethical.

Every gain is intentional; every cost is an accident.

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