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I'm so glad my motherboard doesn’t support Windows 11. That's the one 'secret hack' that seems to work.

Pretty sure the TPM requirement was just an excuse to sell new PCs. They ended up allowing older platforms for 11

Evidence? I have a laptop I purchased refurbished and upgraded to Win11 almost immediately. It cannot be updated to 24H2, apparently because the TPM does not support the required version for that Win11 version.

I'm sure it's an honest attempt to move the baseline for security up and shake off the "Windows is insecure by default" perception they've been fighting since introducing UAC.

Though it is definitely not required, IoT LTSC does not have these requirements.

Pfff. It's a push to hardware they can lock down and claim full control over so they can sell the Windows platform as secure to content providers (games, etc.) The same way Android banking apps refuse to run on rooted phones, you'll soon be unable to run a lot of apps if you don't have a TPM. Then it'll be some websites that can't be accessed...

This fearmongering about Microsoft has existed since the very day the first TPM shipped, and it has never come closer to being real.

Most of the security improvements shipping in Windows are leftovers from Xbox, but they very clearly state that Windows Security does not treat the user themselves as a threat.

See the slide around 4 minutes into this talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7VwtOrwceo

Windows continual slowdown and incompatibility is intentional to sell new hardware. This has happened since the 90's.

I have notebook that supports everything (TPM 2.0). The only excuse is that the CPU is allegedly a generation too old, which only makes sense for servers.

That 100% pushed me to wipe Windows from all of my computers, except for my company-issued notebook.

I haven’t noticed a difference (if anything, everything is faster).

You can turn off TPM on any motherboard.

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