Causing inconvenience to ordinary Americans is the only way that will get through the thick brains of US Congress, I am afraid. And this should have been done in retaliation ever since these measures were introduced.
You can tell because now Newsom is singing a different tune. He even denies ever using the word “latinx” and Bernie now claims secure borders are a must…
Don’t put people is a position where they will make a choice you (the other guys and gals) will regret. Don’t “dare” them.
He's just big on being a decent person. So don't do things like store people on concrete floors under 24h lights. It doesn't mean that he wants unfettered immigration.
> (2015) [2] So I was disappointed, if not surprised, at the visceral horror with which Bernie Sanders reacted to the idea when interviewed by my colleague Ezra Klein. “Open borders?” he interjected. “No, that’s a Koch brothers proposal.” The idea, he argued, is a right-wing scheme meant to flood the US with cheap labor and depress wages for native-born workers. “I think from a moral responsibility, we’ve got to work with the rest of the industrialized world to address the problems of international poverty,” he conceded, “but you don’t do that by making people in this country even poorer.”
[1]: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/25/21143931/b...
[2]:
People who are hurt by the policies of this administration aren't going to say "gee, one third of the United States really sucks." Nor should they. Right now, the United States sucks. The onus is on us, all of us, to fix it.
Non voters implicitly endorse the status quo, even if they don’t understand the consequences of their choices.
To the point here, Americans who didn’t vote bear responsibility for our current political situation.
Sounds like they were happy to roll the dice. Play stupid games.
You deal with the government as-in.
It's not like we say "Oh, Nalvany was a great guy so we shouldn't sanction Russia".
That’s 165 million people—about 60%—of Americans who didn’t vote for the current president.
That’s definitely not how it works.
I didn’t vote in 2016 but was definitely NOT okay with Trump winning.
I also live in a state where Hillary Clinton won every county that year, so my non-vote made no difference in the outcome.
On the other hand, if I lived in a swing state or if we elected the president by popular vote, I would have voted for Clinton regardless of my personal feelings.
Also many people choose not to vote to express their dislike for both candidates.
For that case, try international sanctions - of which, yes, increasing visa requirements or banning entry bar special cases (say a Salvadorian having family in the EU) certainly is an option that should be discussed.
The EU has strength through the size of its population and economy, and it's time we finally start playing our cards instead of just bending over.
Yes, the UK put ETA in place but that's trivial and mostly symbolic. Took me about 2 minutes to complete which was mostly about grabbing my passport to get the number.
That comparison doesn't really make sense.
What mschuster91 proposed is that in response to the US mistreating EU visitors the EU should mistreat US visitors. It's a straightforward symmetrical tit for tat. One party starts harming another, that other reciprocates with a similar harm directed to the first party.
In your comparison it would be others responding to El Salvador mistreating its own citizens by also mistreating El Salvador's citizens. It is missing the crucial symmetry of a tit for tat.
And then the cycle of hate and harm becomes infinite. Or, in other words:
> An eye for an eye will leave everyone blind.¹
Random US citizens are not at fault for random US border agents harming random EU citizens. By all means, have the EU refuse entry to US citizens, but treating them like the US does—imprisoning them for weeks—is unacceptable even in retaliation.
¹ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/12/27/eye-for-eye-blind/
Genuine curiosity, are you a Trump fan?
Causing inconvenience to average Americans won’t have any impact in the actions of their ruling class. In fact, they would likely spin that into propaganda against foreign countries.
The status quo aka doing nothing hasn't worked either so far - to the contrary, with each administration, the bullshit increases. So, it's time to escalate - if the US doesn't learn the easy way, it takes more pressure.
China allows phone searches _anywhere_ without warrant.
I don’t know the rules in the EU or India currently but worked for a company 20 years ago that would not let us travel across any border with IP on a laptop because the assumption is that border agents could demand access both electronically and physically.
As someone who grew up in an area leaning hard conservative, the trope of “American who doesn’t travel outside of their state” exists for a reason and describes a lot of people. Extend that to international travel.
https://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/...
No, you need to cause inconvenience specifically to the ruling class, not ordinary people. Otherwise, Congress will just hand-wave away concerns of their constituents if it doesn't affect themselves personally.
In any case tourism is bad for the environment. Stay local, vacation locally be socially responsible.
Travel by Canadians (to USA) is down to covid-era lows.
But it ain't the best idea anyway, those americans that do travel abroad are mostly the saner ones and not avid trump voters. No point trying to target some rednecks that are trivial to manipulate via emotions whose farthest life trip was maybe to Tijuana.