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People need to look at the totality of his actions and policy. It is about character rather than litigating a particular argument.

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I think Trump and his administration are patriots. Clearly to a fault at times, but everyone has faults. I do not step back and see America on a course to fascism with Trump at the helm. If we drown in debt we don’t have a nation. Full stop. Someone has to look at how we spend our money, ask fundamentally whether it serves the taxpayer’s interest, and make calls. Illegal aliens are expensive. Corruption is expensive. Unfair trade is expensive. Dependence on other nations for strategic manufacturing is expensive. Exporting labor is expensive.

I mean what actually is the outrage here? I do not see it. I see patriots trying to defend taxpayer interests. Taxpayers are the in group. That’s not racist or ethnic. It’s nationalist. Defending its citizens is what nations do. Since when is that equal to fascism?

> If we drown in debt we don’t have a nation.

"That's why I voted for the guy who added 1/3 of it in just four out of ~250 years!"

(And plans to do it again. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce81g9593dro)

> I mean what actually is the outrage here? I do not see it. I see patriots trying to defend taxpayer interests.

Yikes.

> Taxpayers are the in group.

The in-group is right-wingers, such as farmers[1] and Likud[2].

[1] https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/press-releases/2025/03/...

[2] https://www.state.gov/military-assistance-to-israel/

As long as you keep convincing yourself that this is just a phase of right wing crazies, it will keep happening. Support for the democrats has never been lower. There is bipartisan support for the current administration. It’s not just right-wing personalities. Take it or leave it, but I’m not living in a vacuum.

But perhaps the issue is how we go about defining who is corrupt, who is an alien, what trade is unfair etc.

I don't understand the spending argument. Trump raised the deficit by 3 trillion in his first term and plans to raise it again during this term as well. Of course, he's not the only president to do it, but it seems strange to me that people defend Trump with this line.

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