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A rare Bethesda hater appears, quick, catch him!

Fallout 3 was magnificent, a wild commercial success and one of the greatest CRPGs of all times.

I'm sure Fallout 2 was good, I don't know because the control system is so bloody awful I couldn't get more than 2 hours into it.

It is acclaimed, but it's hard to replay it.

In today's world it is a bad game. Fallout 3 is still a good game.

Bethesda games are constantly replayed. Skyrim, fallout 4, etc. are all still on Steam charts top played lists.

Right NOW. 10 years after release

Fallout 2 is not.

You are on the wrong side of fact Vs fantasy.

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I have replayed Fallout 2 like 20 times.

I checked your claim about the steam charts. Currently the 30-Day Avg for Fallout 2 is 159 and for Fallout 3 - 376 players. I wouldn't call this a huge win. F2 is much older and the graphics are not aging well.

To be fair, those Steam stats are probably not reflecting reality. Fallout 3 doesn't work very well with current Windows versions, and so many of the Fallout 3 players these days (most?) are playing it in the New Vegas engine via Tale of Two Wastelands.

People are obviously going to play Fallout 4 now, it's Fallout 3 with updated graphics and mechanics.

20,000 players.

More popular doesn’t necessarily mean better, a lot has to be left on the cutting room floor for something to gain mass appeal.

Fallout 3 was very successful. If selling many copies is the yardstick you measure quality by, it may well have been one of the greatest CRPGs of all time.

By other metrics it may fall a bit lower down the ranks. For example, the writing is quite bad (the water is thoroughly irradiated from a war that happened 200 years ago).

>(the water is thoroughly irradiated from a war that happened 200 years ago)

This is what I always found grating about the writing in Bethesda Fallout games. Their writers think that the war happened last Tuesday and there are parts of the old world behind every other door. In universe, the war happened more than two centuries ago and humanity has moved on, in several strange ways.

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