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Feds charge three over Molotov attacks on Tesla sites in multiple states

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Calling it domestic terrorism is more than a bit of a stretch. Who is it that feels terrorized that an unoccupied dealership was vandalized?

The perpetrators should absolutely be charged for their crimes but talk about an abuse of the term. Can they even point to a single employee who is afraid to go to work as a result of this? Seems as though the media would be all over that storyline if it existed…

the use or threat of violence to instill fear and achieve political or ideological goals, often targeting civilians

Doesn't seem like a stretch to me. If I was looking to buy a new car, I would be hesitant to buy a Tesla because they're being targeted.

That's why you're hesitant to buy a Tesla right now??

I know right? Isn't it absolutely abhorrent that I don't care that Elon Musk owns 13% of Tesla?

The current admin are terrorists by that definition. Fight fire with fire, I guess.

If a member of the German Resistance molotov'd some Volkswagens from VW's forced-labor plant, they probably would have been charged with something similar by the ruling regime.

Those were just Roman candles, right?

I agree that everyone needs to face the consequences to their actions but feels a bit hypocritical and unfair seeing as how people with power and money just get away with it. I'd also love a clear picture of how these guys were caught so fast.

> I'd also love a clear picture of how these guys were caught so fast.

They probably brought their phones, and walked by some cameras along the way (aren't Teslas covered in them*?)

Either would be enough, and I wouldn't be surprised if they parked nearby, too.

* - That cybertruck doubles as a surveillance van with footage that is shared with authorities for persecuting/prosecuting people. Expect it to be used against opposition protestors, those who seek abortions, etc.

So public surveillance in US is already at the level where you can't do anything without the Government knowing. (not even burn a few nazi Teslas /s).

I don't favor Musk at all but I find it hard to believe that the nazi salute was on purpose, seems like that was blown out of proportion, but the chances are not zero, Musk grew in Pretoria, South Africa which had an Apartheid Government with similar ideology, a place which a lot of nazis took refuge after they lost the war.

Musk is a troll. IMO the salute was 100% intentional and done for attention, but the man doesn't actually believe in the core tenets of national socialism.

American fascism isn't neonazizm. I'd wager that the people who subscribe to the tenants of "effective accellerationism" and related ideologies are more consciously fascist, and have a more coherent and articulable set of reasons why, than anyone wearing a swastika arm band in a neo-Nazi group.

You might say Musk might be too busy playing video games to actually have read up on the subject. He might be more of a hanger on. But the Germans would've charged him with a crime for what he did. They know what they saw.

> I find it hard to believe that the nazi salute was on purpose

Musk did it deliberately, he did it with gusto, and he did it twice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc

It's who he is. It's who he wants to be.

He 'accidentally' did it twice.

Try not to salute any Nazis on your way to the parking lot...

> "The days of committing crimes without consequence have ended," said Bondi.

Your boss is gonna check into NY state prison?

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