DNA evidence says first Americans came from Asia
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This isn't a news story, just a kind of encyclopedia (?) entry, and it should have a (2024) at least, because of the "Last updated June 2024" at bottom.
Did you mean "peopled"?
>The peopling of the Americas began when Paleolithic hunter-gatherers (Paleo-Indians) entered North America from the North Asian Mammoth steppe via the Beringia land bridge, which had formed between northeastern Siberia and western Alaska due to the lowering of sea level during the Last Glacial Maximum (26,000 to 19,000 years ago).
That is what is common knowledge afaik. What has been debunked?
Look, for example, at this clip of traditional Siberian music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU1apJTv94o
or this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXLoP9iSU5Y
The similarity to North American Indian cultures is still striking, 13 thousand years later.
(And I like the way the singer just overflows with musical energy, too...)
To be fair, the environment imposes a lot of constraints.
And there's the Eskimo/Inuit cultures that cross the Bering strait.
The title will be more accurate if include languages as well.
http://www.stat.yale.edu/~jtc5/papers/CommonAncestors/Nature...
That article doesn't look compelling when refuting a claim that depends entirely on geography and migration.
> The current paper presents more realistic mathematical and computer models. It incorporates factors such as socially driven mating, physical barriers of geography and migration, and recorded historical events.
A moment's though yet you can't write it down?
I realized the way it was written could be ambiguously read as "if you traced everyone's lineage _by_ one branch up" after the edit window had passed.
This is clearly ridiculous. We have historical written records to know this isn’t true.
Second, that's the word we use in English. If you've lived here for millenia, you can use the appropriate word in your own language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent?wprov=sfti1#Number
All English-speaking countries count them as two continents though.
And in English, it's conventionally "the Americas" even if you believe it's a single continent.
Kind of like, we call it the Bahamas, not Bahama, even though it's one country. It's linguistic, not conceptual.
Oh nooo, I'm so offended that Chinese people have a name that I didn't agree too for the place my ancestors are from for the last 350 years. Someone give me some pearls to clutch.
Germans don’t call the place they live Germany. They don’t even call themselves Germans. But I call it Germany because that’s the English name for that place.
(ALso that is a so ridiculous reasoning, by that logic everyone is native african and not native <insert place where they genetically diverged and settled>)
No that does not follow, but the very first individuals who migrated to America (the humans this discussion is about) obviously were not born in America. By my logic there were no native Americans that came from Asia to America, but their descendants became native.
Yes I know, very pedantic. I don't think there is anything wrong with the title.
So what, we have Asians, Africans, and Humans Living in North America?
American, a. and n.
(əˈmɛrɪkən)
A adj.
1.a Belonging to the continent of America. Also, of or pertaining to its inhabitants.
1.b American language (usu. with the), (i) a language of American Indians; (ii) American English (see sense 3). Also American tongue.
2.a Belonging to the British colonies in North America (obs.).
2.b Belonging to the United States.
2.c U.S. spec. (See quot. a 1861.)
1837 Diplom. Corr. Texas (1908) I. 187 A large number of fine American horses‥which there is no doubt had been stolen from citizens of Texas. 1846 E. Bryant What I saw in Calif. (1849) iv. 37 Such [Indians] as rode ponies were desirous of swapping them for the American horses of the emigrants. a 1861 Winthrop John Brent (1862) ii. 14 He was an American horse,—so they distinguish in California one brought from the old States. 1878 J. H. Beadle Western Wilds, xvi. 253, I rode a good-sized American horse.
3.a Special Combinations. American bar; American blight; American cheese; American cloth; American dream; American English; American football; ...oadfoot et al. Billiards i. 41 In 1876 D. Richards‥ran second to Cook in an *American tournament. 1976 Cumberland News 3 Dec. 19/1 On Thursday, December 16‥a Christmas American tournament will take place.
3.b In the names of various trees and plants native to North America, as American arbor vitæ, Thuja occidentalis; American ash, Fraxinus americana; American aspen (tree), Populus tremuloides; American Beauty (rose), a variety of cultivated rose; American beech (tree), Fagus grandifolia; American elm (tree), = white elm; American plane (tree), the buttonwood or Virginian Plane (see plane n.1 1).
B n.
B.1 An American Indian.
B.2 A native of America of European descent; esp. a citizen of the United States. Now simply, a native or inhabitant of North or South America (often with qualifying word, as Latin American, North American); a citizen of the United States.
B.3 A ship belonging to America.
B.4 pl. Short for American stocks or shares.
B.5 American English; the form of English spoken in the United States.Asserting it has that meaning when used in context of a time tens of thousands of years ago is nonsensical.
Another usage is that people are native to where they were born.
After a couple of genrations, I'm sure early american's had lost cultural knowledge of how exactly they came to be in the americas. After a couple of centuries, for sure all of this info was gone.
Another example of this might be the early viking habitation in north america, which was totally forgotten before other europeans arrived 500 years later...
For instance, nobody actually knew where the Romani people actually came from until the 1800s or so, and even then, the theory of a migration out of India (specifically, the Punjab region) couldn't be proven until the advent of modern DNA science.
See more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Romani_people#O...
The Beringian Standstill hypothesis states that a group migrated out of Asia 25k years ago and were effectively trapped by glaciers in the temperate coastal plains of southern Alaska (what is now the Gulf of Alaska). When glaciers melted 15kya, sea levels rose and they start traveling south.
(You'll notice lots of references to a great flood - the globally rising sea levels no doubt leading to this myth being prevalent around the world in many cultures, first nations included)
By that point, they'd already been Americans for 10k years. There wasn't likely any conscious realization of this, no cultural memory of "Asia". But they truly were the first Americans, and way earlier than we were taught.
The result is a grand natural experiment - a group of humans completely cut off from Asia/Africa/Europe for millennia. That culture incubated in southern AK for 10k years, then spread out over the Americas for the last 15k, only to run into long lost European cousins 500 years ago. It's that long period of relative isolation that makes the first nation stories so valuable. The kind of morals, myths and values that arose from this unique historical trajectory can be quite different to philosophies of the old continents. Yet surprisingly similar (we are human after all).
What does a navajo creation myth have to do with that?
Was it? They just haven’t realized or cared that it was a different continent rather than a bunch of different islands far in the North.
Vinland sagas were written several hundred years after the last voyages and weren’t lost either (Iceland itself had very limited contact with the rest of Europe though (e.g. it took the plague an extra 50 years to get there).
Nobody cared or had any clue what some “savages” in the North were up to and whether they discovered another random island. If they did it had no impact on them.
Europe was extremely different in the late 1400s compared to 1000 AD, Columbus letters were published in many major cities almost immediately after his return.
And you have a very relevant username!
There's a very good movie documentary about it, which won an oscar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kon-Tiki_(1950_film)
Also, the following regarding his later Papyrus boat expedition:
It seems the privileged place some people give to 'doer', and their decision to define the hard work of academic research as not 'doing', produced the wrong answer. Thor might have done better with another approach.