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Comment by doctorpangloss | Hacker News Reader

Maybe you guys should make it possible to add passwords to any account, including a Google authed one.

Like I get Keycloak is complicated but it is also very useful.

My gosh yes please! This is so annoying. Last time I checked it’s impossible to disconnect your email address from Google auth if you used that to sign up. And no way to delete the account and recreate with that email address.

That is definitely possible when you use our identity product, which is also open source: https://github.com/ory/kratos

There you can combine all authentication methods in any shape or form you wish!

So why isn’t it possible with OpenAI? They use Auth0, right? What exactly do they use Ory for?

Disclosure: I work for an Ory competitor.

Yeah, the case study is a little hand-wavey, but from hints on the ChatGPT login page, it seems like they still use Auth0 (at least for the free, consumer facing application that I use).

From https://www.ory.sh/case-studies/openai

"OpenAI is rapidly building its new identity experiences, having already enabled unprecedented logins per second with levels of data transparency and infrastructure flexibility that were not possible with other vendor solutions."

Maybe they are using Ory for new auth experiences?

Could also be that they use ory "only" for oauth 2.

Customer facing it looks like a combination of nextauth and auth0 (at least on my end)

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