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A remake of the very first website

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It's kind of impressive that any modern browser will still accept and render these pages perfectly fine...

If you look at the source, you shouldn't be surprised. It uses a very small subset of what is present now in html.

It also made me discover that view source was removed from Safari 6 (Without enabling the Developer menu) :(

it's not the oldest website... symbolics.com is

this i guess maybe be a replication of the first page published .. or something like that.

could anyone please confirm?

You're confusing "website" and "domain name".

I wasn't there at this time (I'm only 23) but I believe symbolics.com was the first dot-com domain name, not the first website.

Yep, DNS, along with email, usenet, ftp, gopher, and many other internet services were long-established before "the web" was created.

Do you not understand where the web was invented? It wasn't at symbolics.com.

true ..

I think symbolics.com is the oldest (still existing) site / registered domain name

what was the domain name of this (whatever is on the post) site ? when was it registered? anyone??

It's the oldest .com domain, not the oldest domain name

I was surprised the source started with a <header> tag. I thought the header tag was introduced in HTML5.

http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tag_header.asp

Note that the HEADER tag here was replaced by HEAD in subsequent HTML versions. The current HEADER is a completely different beast, falling inside the BODY. The neat thing is that, since the BODY exists and there is no HTML node, current browsers are able to interpret this HEADER as if it were HEAD.

http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/H...

Still not a bad list.

Lots and lots of observations. Just a few:

The list of who's involved is sorted alphabetically by last name. TBL is third on this list. Humility. http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/P...

"Resource discovery" is identified as a problem. And a possible solution is proposed: By the way, it would be easy in principle for a third party to run over these trees and make indexes of what they find. Its just that noone has done it as far as I know because there isn't yet an indexer which runs over the web directly. Now, if there was only some money in that ...

In the long term, when there is a really large mass of data out there, with deep interconnections, then there is some really exciting work to be done on automatic algorithms to make multi-level searches.

TBL's first hypertext work was in 1980. Good ideas take time to come to fruition (there was also much parallel work on similar concepts). http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/F...

I would probably have read this page for the first time in January/February 1993 when I was writing my first html page.

Too bad there are so many broken links now.

Has someone ever tried to compile/port the first web browser [1] on a modern OS X machine?

[1] http://www.w3.org/History/1991-WWW-NeXT/Implementation/

No, but I have gotten Erwise (<https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Erwise>) running (with some patches and some bugs) on a modern 64-bit machine running Linux.

Heh. Nice idea. It uses the old NextStep AppKit classes (rather than OpenStep, which Cocoa descends from) so you'd have to reimplement them, possibly as wappers around the modern AppKit api. It might also depend on some older features of the objective-c runtime, which would need to be worked around.

Could be a nice 'just for fun' sort of project though...

http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/P...

The work at CERN is differentiated when it is performed by westerners or by people from the eastern side:

"The cost [...] has been evaluated, taking into account realistic labor prices in different countries. The total cost is X (with a western equivalent value of Y)" [where Y>X]

source: LHCb calorimeters : Technical Design Report

ISBN: 9290831693 http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/494264

Note the use of the NEXTID tag, which was already listed as "historical reasons only" in HTML 2.

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