The world has gone crazy. So this relative has casually used the most bloated spyware disguised as a browser for literally a decade, but she can't switch to firefox because 'Mozilla’s recent behavior'.
The world has gone crazy. So this relative has casually used the most bloated spyware disguised as a browser for literally a decade, but she can't switch to firefox because 'Mozilla’s recent behavior'.
TBH I added the sentence about recent Mozilla behaviour because it pisses me off but it shouldn't be an argument, you're right.
I have both browsers icons next to each other and sometimes I launch the other by mistake. For normal browsing I only spot the difference due to various pages having different logins ie from my wife or not being logged in.
If somebody is able to use internet (god forbid even do some payments on it) then I am pretty sure they could understand the concept of another, very similar app with same behavior. Sometimes new releases change UI at least as much as those browsers differ between each other.
If you do, you acknowledge that "Chrome disabling uBlock Origin is a serious security threat."
If you don't, then "Chrome disabling uBlock Origin is a serious security threat" seems even more true.
Either way, I'm curious on the size of your bet here. Talk is cheap, and you've only given OP the laziest and most obvious solution. Do you believe what you said is profound and/or an interesting argument?
I’ve had both experiences myself. Sometimes the older folks manage just fine. Sometimes they don’t. Sometimes it’s an aversion to change, sometimes it’s to cope with cognitive decline, and sometimes they just like one thing or the other, just like anyone.
This is such an unfair comparison, where Google made billions on your user data and Mozilla is barely living off the scraps.
Clearly we should support Mozilla and not Google here.
Edit: Chromium forks/derivatives
Using a fork to work around Google marking addons are malicious seems like a middle ground between "living with ads" and "using a whole new browser the author has political issues with"
Maybe you consider those just as bad, though
Recently, I've noticed a "this SaaS only works in Chrome" trend again. Usually that means "only works in Blink" but it still sucks if you need to use SaaS (for work) that has this silly limitation. I've noticed cheaper restaurant web ordering software tends to have problems in Firefox.
For technical or even semi-technical folks those aren't an issue. For non-technical folks, those issues above can easily lead to a poorer web experience without them understanding why. On the other hand, the author didn't actually call out technical issues
Pro tip - don't try and spread 200k arguments into a function!
Chromium is pretty good about suspending pages when it's left sitting for long periods of time
Firefox engineers are trying, and you cannot blame them (like you would blame Mozilla) because it has not seen the kind of commitment from industry talent that Chromium. There have been multiple re-writes of major components in Chromium, and they tried really hard to keep the codebase somewhat up-to-date. Firefox is comparatively dated, it's not at all sexy; had people understood this, they wouldn't be so quick with jumping to conclusions, & all. There are many objective, engineering reasons why Firefox is lagging behind the gigantic Chromium+V8 ecosystem of browsers and JS backend industry. For some champagne-socialist reason, it's really vogue to call for Firefox adoption, donating to Mozilla, etc. However, it's rarely an argument made on merit. I think, they just hate to admit that Google has largely succeeded in elevating Chromium to the likes of Linux. If you're making a browser in 2025, unless you're making an artistic point a-la privacy, or contra Chromium specifically, you would rather pick it up at upstream like you would pick up Linux, instead of re-inventing the kernel because Linux bad. That is not to say that OpenBSD, or whatever, Plan9—is without merit, just that it wouldn't surprise anybody had you picked Linux for the job. If you hate Google's SWE people, or its leadership that ostensibly could sway the course of Chromium development, then this is probably really painful! If you don't hate them, you just carry on about your business. And so everyone complies. Because why the hell wouldn't you? There's battles to fight, and there's the other kind.
It doesn't help that Mozilla is cutting the branch from underneath itself.
LadyBird and Servo are both interesting projects however I imagine still many years out of their succeed