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I've been building my own emacs for a long time, and have yet to hit any weird bugs. I thought that as long as you avoid any unsafe optimizations, you should be fine? Granted, I also thought that -march=native was the main boost that I was seeing. This post indicates that is not necessarily the case.

I also suspect that any application using floats is more likely to have rough edges?

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Complex software usually has some undefined behavior lurking that at higher or even just different optimization levels can trigger the compiler to do unexpected things to the code. It happens all the time in my line of work. If there's an extensive test suite you can run to verify that it still works mostly as expected then it's easier.

This is one where I suspect we don't disagree. But "all the time" can have a very different feel between people.

It also used to happen that just changing processors was likely to find some problems in the code. I have no doubt that still happens, but I'd also expect it has reduced.

Some of this has to be a convergence on far fewer compilers than we used to encounter. I know there are still many c compilers. Seems there are only two common ones, though. Embedded, of course, is a whole other bag of worms.

Did you try -ffast-math? IIRC that used to break emacs in some subtle way, while providing no extra speed.

I thought touching the math optimizations directly was in the "unsafe" bucket. Really the only optimization I was aiming for was -march=native. That and the features like native compilation that have made it to the release.

I do think I saw improvements. But I never got numbers, so I'm assuming most of my feel was wishful thinking. Reality is a modern computer is hella fast for something like emacs.

I did see compilation mode improve when I trimmed down the regexes it watches for to only the ones I knew were relevant for me. That said, I think I've stopped doing that; so maybe that is a lot better?

I've turned on fastmath in python numba compiler while thinking "of course i want faster math, duh". Took me a while to find out it was a cause of many "fun" subtle bugs. Never touching that stuff again.

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