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>Seems to be the most likely procedure with the current administration.

For example?

Also please show that the major current on-going efforts, like ongoing negotiations, measures in the border etc, were worked upon as intensive as it is now, in the previous administration.

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Trump replaced NAFTA with USMCA during his first term. He claimed it was the best deal ever.

This term, he's claiming the deal is terrible and starting a trade war (which is likely not winnable and probably ends up settling for something approximating NAFTA again).

Which is it? Best deal ever, or crap? He's lying about one.

So I searched for "NAFTA USMCA difference" and there are a lot of articles that describe the differences.

I agree that Trump sometimes exaggerate stuff, but that does not mean that there is nothing is there.

I think It is very dishonest to claim that all the current administration is doing is just continuing what the previous ones did, but with changed names.

Trump signed USMCA. Now he claims some idiot did USMCA.

Both facts check out.

The point of the argument you were replying to was that Trump signed the USMCA in his first term, but it's now saying it's a terrible deal for the US and reason enough to start a trade war with Canada over.

A deal he himself signed.

Trump doesn't just exaggerate. Trump outright lies. Minute by minute.

Even if that is true, that only make him look better. He made a mistake and is now correcting it. Not sure why it is a bad thing.

If we want to play the "whos more dishonest" game, we should probably look at what he said about his own trade agreement years later.

As part of it, Trump signed the "deal" that had Canada supplying power to 3 states. The same thing he later railed against and wanted to know who could have possibly done it. It was him.

> For example?

USMCA

Not sure if you are the same person. But anyway, I cannot read your mind. Please explain your justifications for the claim or please share an article that does it.

You know how to use Google, right?

That would put a wrench in whatever weird contrarian play that keeps getting OP banned.

I don’t know why I even engaged. Haven’t had my coffee yet.

USMCA was NAFTA, which Trump was against before and then supported it after the rename. Only the name changed, the treaty did not.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43398744

Why don’t YOU show those things? That would at least be the start of a good faith discussion and not a whataboutism bias tirade.

Show what things?

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