Seriously , I never used to really think about france that much , but Emmanuel Macron correcting trump on live air really made me trust france more as a non US citizen.
I was more about talking trust from intuition which can then create that sense of direction.
I thank you for creating this comment. I gotta read more about macron to see if he's really how I felt from my intution.
Hopefully the circus currently taking place across the pond is enough to deter some from voting for them, come 2027?
There is no way you will win, no way they will stop, unless you fight (politically and socially) and defeat them.
I don't trust our neoliberal politicans (Dems or Macron here in France, whatever his party is called today) to do the right thing. If they get reelected it will be more mostly pro-buisness politics with a dash of mildly progressive policies, when it's convenient.
I'd add that they also found powerful allies in western oligarchs, who have a vested interest in the dismantling of the state for personal gains.
Unfortunately, that would mean that the politicians from the last 20 years need to do a mea culpa on quite a few things and that will never happen so the far right will eventually get in power.
Don't blame the players, blame the game.
They are having the same outcomes using the same tactics all over the world. It's not dependant on the country.
The political landscape is completely split in 3 thirds in France at the moment, and people stay firmly in their lanes.
It would need an incredibly popular décision to bring anyone from the left or far right to approve of him.
[1] https://www.latribune.fr/la-tribune-dimanche/politique/barom...
Misinformation is a disease.
So there is, at the same time, an "oh, god, he's trying to use Russian fearmongering" effect that is just too big for comedians not to use ; and, somehow, a "rally around the flag" effect where people thinks he's actually on to something.
I would love to know if someone has studied the effects of comedians on misinformation. Hyperbole and exagérations are par for the course when making jokes - I just don't know if people are starting to take comedians both seriously (as you should) and literally (as you should not.)
France's government is working on a law to force the messaging providers to implement a backdoor that would break E-to-E.
Macron has promised to end homelessness before being elected. It never happened. He was supposed to stop the rise of the far right, the far right has never been higher.
He was suppose to simplify France's bureaucracy to help entrepreneurs and trim the fat so that we stop burdening the new generation with crippling debt. The debt has literally exploded under his presidencies, crime is on the rise and Islamism terrorism as well.
His political capital in France has vanished. His party does not control the parliament nor the senate. His own prime minister is not from his party and as such will not implement Macron's agenda.
Macron is more interested in pushing the interests of the EU or Ukraine than those of France itself.
In France, the president is the one who sets the agenda in terms of foreign policy and that is what Macron is focusing on. On the rest of the issues that France is currently facing, he basically has no say on it.
He is basically a lame duck president who has less than 2 years left and can never run again.
> He was suppose to simplify France's bureaucracy to help entrepreneurs and trim the fat so that we stop burdening the new generation with crippling debt. The debt has literally exploded under his presidencies
Was Macron supposed to magic Covid out of existence? The "whatever it takes" approach he took was the best possible policy for preserving the economy, and exploding debt was the cost.
Because you are reading a lot of destabilisation propaganda online. I recommend you cut your news and social networks consumption a little bit.
The fact that you are beginning to trust FRANCE over something that MACRON did, no less, speaks volumes.
I'm no France-lover (hugs from north-east of Spain), but I think this sums up things pretty well. Someone who would have been jailed in any other democracy, is now the head of government, somehow.
Given France's experience with democracy and how hard it is to keep, and America's lack of experience (as a country and democracy), makes me trust France a lot more today.
This was the exact sentiment I was trying to capture.
Along with the fact that a lot of american politics simply doesn't make much sense to me following it. So that also helps.
the fact that france's president put his stance forward and corrected american's president's blatant lie also contributed just a little in my ignorant tiny world bubble to really considering about france as a more trustworthy country and then reasoning from it to concluding it as true.
There might be many other countries as well who are more trust worthy than france , but certain events which put them in spotlight would be required for the normies like me to find it.
Trust was maybe a different word , maybe hope is the correct word ? (but doesn't everybody trust hope)
But I trust the people who can make me hope for a better future by actively not submitting to those people who are actively trying to reduce my hope in better future.
There is absolutely no denying that what Trump has done , has absolutely made many people really hopeless. Such levels of incompetency at a presidential level just feels weird. Its as if nobody is seeing how absurd things are , when you connect everything.
Maybe its me , but this presidency feels like a chaos to me as an outsider / foreigner.
America , as it is right now , is a failed state.
I don't understand , don't we trust countries based on their stability and their stance. Such level of open defiance is what makes me trust france that they are more likely to stand to facts than ahem america.
To be honest , maybe I am being too gloom / sad over america. It feels like the world is shifting towards a russo-american , european , chinese influenceced multi polar world.
What america really hated russia was for are just past wars , but britain and france also had these but they collectively became allies after world war.
May I ask , where in my total arguments , am I sounding unreasonable? I thought it doesn't matter where you read the news , I was able to reason to a pessimist outlook of the trump presidency.
Everything is a propaganda , propaganda literally means something along the lines of sharing your ideas.
Listening to propaganda isn't bad , but blindly advocating for it without reason is bad and dismissing other opinions without reason to fulfill your bias is bad.
If you can really counter my reason , then hey , I can be glad that I don't have to be sad about USA.
Also , I watched a video somewhere that we have a limited amount of (he said "fucks" but in the sense of I give a fuck) things you can care and you have to use it wisely.
I really was giving too much care about USA but I have stopped caring now since its not my country anyway and what power do I really have? Maybe it might be my own fault / I read some things without really applying my own reason.
I am sorry if it offends people but this is my honest opinion America has fallen in my eyes. And there is nothing I can do to change that , so why even care about america?
also , whom Do you actually put hope on Europe?
> UK actively tries censorship against apple encryption etc.
Yes there are countries like germany whose people are really nice ,and I don't mean to offend any european but maybe its my own fault , but I don't know the name of german prime minister (or is it president?) , yes I can search it , but quite frankly , though I have more knowledge about all the countries and somewhat their borders etc. in europe , I don't remember their politicians except Macron.
It truly shows my ignorance but I just follow world affairs and I don't see many references to other presidents but rather their countries.
I may be wrong , I usually am , but judging from your tone , to me it seems that you wouldn't prefer right / conservative politicans .
Macron is a liberal (I fact checked using wiki) , and you are being dissatisfied with liberal politics considering selling his country for his masters comment?
I still don't understand this comment though , forgive my ignorance and please share references.
I am not sure if I am violating with hacker news comments by being too political and I am sorry for that but I am genuinely interested what your political leanings are.
To me , as a self acclaimed centrist who just believes in georgism and certain measures , these are only some moderately radical , not completely radical like socialism steps that I wish for a govt.
To be honest , I have this feeling that all politicians are evil and you have to choose the leser evil. I can think of running into politics but as a common man , its gonna be quite hard and you really have to engineer yourself for it which can be quite hard for normies so it attracts a lot of people who expect something out of running into politics and not for the good will of the people.
Choosing the lesser evil doesn’t cut it. You are still choosing and being complicit with evil. Siding with evil is Wrong. Relativism is a disease. Evil is evil.
By this , do you mean the Average age of a person or birth rate or what exactly , because I think europe doesn't have those issues.
Are you mentioning the fact that Europe has power vested in the old. Doesn't everybody ? Maybe you are mentioning this in the fact that europe doesn't have a startup culture like silicon valley which can give newcomers (young passionate people) a incentive.
I definitely have some points over relativism and though I don't necessarily agree with that , I think we can first agree to discuss about what you mean by the old people comment.
By status quo , what do you mean exactly ?
Most people are looking up to retirement and their pensions. The system is unsustainable and predatory on young people. They pay an overwhelming amount of taxes to sustain this system. It also needs massive immigration which causes severe security and cultural problems, but they don’t care as long as that guarantees they will get their pension.
Same about housing. It’s old people who own houses. They vote so new housing doesn’t get built as to keep the high value of their houses. They don’t care that young people can’t afford rent.
Many other examples you can think of probably. It’s a society that caters to the old. The young get screwed. And there’s nothing they can do because they are outnumbered and that will only get worse.
This is the status quo. A society that functions like this is dead.
Housing is a problem in every country and I totally agree about that. I myself, really like the georgist philosophy of economy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism
I doubt if this system really is broken. Catering to the old people's pensions so that they can live and unlike america's social security system which was recently cut by doge, which impacts every old person. I think it's decent? What suggestions do you think could help with the pensions scheme