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I'm not sure what your point is. I care about Ruby and want it to die because I have worked on the Gitlab codebase, which is written in Ruby. It's a bad language and it stopped me being able to understand behaviours and fix bugs.

In contrast I have also worked on VSCode which is similarly huge but written in Typescript. Faaaar easier to work with, enough that I've been able to contribute a couple of medium sized features and several bug fixes.

So when people say "yeay Ruby" I try to discourage them because I don't want more Ruby code in the world that I might have the misfortune of having to interact with in future.

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I think you are confusing the beauty and elegance of the language with the crap thatpeople write.

My experience is that the sort of folks who misuse Ruby's powerful features are the sort of idiotes who dont realise that because a thing can be done, doesn't mean that it should be done. These are the sort of people who are capable of misusing most languages.

Was it really idiomatic ruby that "stopped you from being unable to understand behaviors"? Or was it unorganized monkey patching?

I'm having a hard time thinking that ruby is difficult to understand, particularly compared to its opposites lisp, erlang, Haskell, e.g. languages that are extremely simple to the point where the burden of complexity is shoved into code space.

> Was it really idiomatic ruby that "stopped you from being unable to understand behaviors"?

I think so. I'm not an expert but the Gitlab codebase seems like fairly typical Ruby to me.

IIRC Github was originally written in Ruby as well.

Now that they use something "far easier to work with", the UX gets to suffer accordingly.

I've never been in a situation where making the customer happy was synonymous with applying best practices to the tech stack or otherwise making it so everyone and their dog can contribute.

Github is still rails, but they have layered in some react to the UIs, like the file explorer.

It all seems pretty negative value to me though it’s terribly slow.

Yeah Codeberg is significantly faster than GitHub, presumably in part because it's Go and not Ruby.

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