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" Because Oil Companies are lobbying for inefficient hydrogen to delay a green revolution"

well NO, contrary to popular belief. there is no such things because

1. Oil is scarce resource that not every country have

2. since not every country has, they must import it with expensive trade deficit meaning that Oil alternative or replacement is very much needed

since country like china,south korea and japan that has massive economy dependant on oil for their survival, hydrogen tech would come out of necessity but they are not because its not feasible

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that's why china is leading an EV revolution, government seeing that as very much important geopolitic and economic wise

if hydrogen is feasible in mass scale, trust me someone in Asia would already make it

> if hydrogen is feasible in mass scale, trust me someone in Asia would already make it

That is a ridiculous proposition. Electric vehicles themselves were being pushed hard around the world before China saw the way the wind was blowing and overtook it.

"That is a ridiculous proposition. Electric vehicles themselves were being pushed hard around the world before China"

I never said they are first, I said they lead at the EV industry and usage, the amount of resource and how people use EV is gargantuan even compared to the west

I think a lot of people miss the fact that China did not get to electric out of the blue it invested heavily in all these techs Hydrogen, Nuclear, Wind, Solar and batteries the cheapest and easiest to scale turned out to be Solar, Wind and then batteries.

Even today China is still building more hydrogen and nuclear plants than most of the world combined but those technologies have not scaled or gotten cheaper at the same rate as solar, wind and batteries so are not growing where as solar and wind are. China is close to reaching the point where it could start replacing its coal electricity with solar, wind and battery as it is cheaper.

That must be why China is building so much nuclear power.

There really is no accounting for China. They are building everything at an incredible rate, solar, wind, nuclear and coal power!

They are building far more renewables than nuclear.

Most of China’s solar and wind capacity is in its empty west where its people aren’t. They have a bit of transmission, but clearly there is a limit. Western cities like Lanzhou have really cleaned up though as a result. They are limited in how many people can live near renewable sources by water availability.

Toyota bet big on hydrogen.

Bet in the past tense? It seems they are moving further away from that position. There are also some domestic market issues for Toyota - Japan having the lowest voltage mains electricity in the world for example.

Isn't it the same as in US ? Eq. ~120V.

Most EVs sold in China are hybrids and not BEVs. Hence they call them NEV = New Energy Vehicle.

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