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I've been using zen lately mostly for the combination of "essentials" + "workspace" tab management scheme. I love having a space for tabs while also having a spot to pin stuff like email and bluesky which doesn't necessarily fit into one category or other.

Admittedly I haven't tried many other options, except sidebery which was good but not quite there for me.

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Firefox has vertical tabs and tab groups now; those aren't specific to Zen

Correct me if I'm wrong, but neither vertical tabs nor tab groups are fully ready and shipped.

From a quick search, it seems that you need to make edits in `about:config` to enable tab groups and use nightly to access vertical tabs.

Vertical tabs are available in the latest stable release. They're pretty basic compared to tree style tabs and sideberry, though.

OK, this is it. The perfect firefox fork. The last thing I need is the ability to self host a ff sync server so my bookmarks are synced with my phone.

Lucky us, you can do this today, because, of course, it is Mozilla, so it is open source: https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs

These are arc features (which were copied/ported to zen) and are the main reason I use ARC atm on my Mac. On PC I use zen because arc sucks on PC. It's hard to lose these features imo.

In case you didn't know, Arc isn't being developed since 5 months now. The company has moved on to another project called Dia.

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