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Sounds a bit like perl but at a lower level ?

You can certainly do entirely absurd things in Perl. But it is a lot easier / safer work with. You get / can get a wealth of information when you the wrong thing in Perl.

With C segmentation fault is not always easy to pinpoint.

However the tooling for C, with sone if the IDEs out there you can set breakpoints/ walk through the code in a debugger, spot more errors during compile time.

There is a debugger included with Perk but after trying to use it a few times I have given up on it.

Give me C and Visual Studio when I need debugging.

On the positive side, shooting yourself in the foot with C is a common occurrence.

I have never had a segmentation fault in Perl. Nor have I had any problems managing the memory, the garbage collector appears to work well. (at least for my needs)

Eh Segfaults are like the easiest error to debug, they almost always tell you exactly where the problem is.

Except when they don’t. I’m debugging something right now that runs fine under debugging conditions and crashes with a segfault in real life. It’s not randomized memory (messed with that), it’s likely some race where the timing is changed by the debugger.

runs fine under debugging conditions and crashes with a segfault in real life

There's your clue right there...

Yes. Did you read what I wrote?

AdressSanitizer is an absolute gamechanger and should amost always spare you the effort of the nightmare debugging of undefined behaviour.

Sounds a bit like JavaScript, but at a tower level?

I wouldn’t compare them, C is very simple.

Yes, but there are similarities, it has the same hacker mind set imo.

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