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Apple went No. 1 in PC sales

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"Includes all desktops, netbooks, notebooks and pads"

Out of the 21 million "PCs" for Apple in this list, 17 million are iPads. So Apple really sold 4 million PCs compared to HP's 13 million.

Definitely an interesting trend but nowhere near the "No. 1 in PC sales", at least according to what most people would think of as a PC.

I'd just like to add that Apple makes more profit from an iPad in dollar terms than HP makes from a typical desktop/notebook.

That's really not interesting for anyone except Apple and its shareholders though.

I fail to see why people keep bringing it up as if it was relevant to anything.

They also make more fanboys per sale than any other retailer!

Yeah, I think the site is being disingenuous by including iPads as PCs.

That said, it's going to be hard to define what tablets qualify as PCs very soon. --With Windows 8 I would place ARM tablets in the same category as the iPad, but I would place the Surface Pro in a different category - maybe not PC, but definitely more powerful than a tablet.

If laptops are PCs then iPads should qualify too in my opinion. Traditionally when you say 'PC' you probably mean a desktop machine, not a laptop or notebook, but if you start including laptops then you might as well count netbooks and tablets and while we're at it let's throw in phones too. Are these not all 'Personal Computers'?

If iPads are "PCs" then why not iPhones and iPodTouches? They run the same OS - it shouldn't be screen size that determines it, right?

This is a way to pump up Apple stock with intentionally misleading information. No one considers an iPad a "PC" unless they're being pedantic or trying to mislead.

I hate this kind of bullshit. Please, US of A: remember there's are almost two hundred countries in the world besides you. In most of those countries Apple products are prohibitively expensive.

Please keep that in mind when some Apple fanboi publishes an article saying "Apple biggest seller of X". You are probably referring to just one market. As big as that market is, it's not the total of sales worldwide.

Thank you very much.

EDIT: stupid mistake.

Misleading headline. iPad sales are included as "PCs", while at the same time iPads are counted as tablets when Apple is cited as the mobile-leader everywhere.

Enough with the Apple-kissing please. Both Dell and HP sells more PCs. Samsung sells more phones. Yes Apple sells most iDevices, but that is pretty much a given.

in a Post PC world , Apple is the leading PC maker, interesting.

last years "hp pc business spin off" rumours was a major reason for this shift.

If your going to include iPad's why not phones as well?

As tallanvor already alluded to, Microsoft has shown that there is a consistency problem.

Take two Surfaces. One x86 and the other ARM. Add a keyboard and mouse. Now the x86 version is in every respect a PC. The ARM version would be considered today as a tablet. So are we saying that the distinction between tablet and PC is CPU architecture ? Because that is ridiculous given that x86 is moving to the low end for tablets and today we have desktop ARM CPUs.

Hence tablets NEED to be classed as a PC.

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