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i can imagine most first messages looking like "a/s/l?"(age, sex, location).
source: was once a teenage boy with internet access.
Why is this needed?
Edit: clarification
The site seems to be a kind of dating/singles chat, if that's the case having genders/sexes makes some sense, although indeed it could be better.
Not only could that not match your real gender, there are places where IDs allow for more than those two options.
https://www.bustle.com/p/12-states-with-a-third-gender-optio...
If it doesn't, choose the other or closest option. It's unlikely there isn't one.
> there are places where IDs allow for more than those two options.
Sure, like here in NYC. That's really more of a personality thing IMO, which gets conflated with sex. Wherever necessary, things still reduce down to a binary choice, with the rest being details.
Sure, though, we have the tech and ability to handle more than two, but until we get to the point where that's the norm not every situation where we don't isn't one where the sky falling.
What now?
My point is simply that there is likely a 'closest option'. Obviously people don't have to use any service they feel doesn't cater to them, but when a service doesn't always offer more than the binary it doesn't have to always be a "woe is me, how could I ever proceed" scenario.
If everyone keeps saying you reek, consider giving your armpits a sniff before accusing everyone of ganging up.
Little things go a long way in UX.
Why be so adamant about it? It’s not like you built a dating service. The website has a shady vibe in general, I expect most women will be put off by the very thought of outing themselves to thirsty creeps.
Consider it a compliment that transgender and nonbinary people are considered wise enough to stay off such sites.
What world are you living in?
For instance, if person A says “there are people who believe the Earth is flat” and person B denies they exist, the latter is living in a bubble because they are unaware of other widespread ideas (regardless of their accuracy or lack thereof). Person A doesn’t need to believe or agree with a viewpoint to understand there are people who do.
I have met people who would reject the website for that reason and those who wouldn’t. By all means, discuss and disagree with it, but don’t close your eyes and ears and deny their existence. If you don’t realise both camps exist, by definition you are the one in the bubble.
Which I don’t fault you for, because to an extent we all live in bubbles. It is impossible for any human in one lifetime to be aware of all different realities. The very fact that we have access to HN and choose to comment here already places us in a bubble which excludes most of the world. Every other facet of our lives puts us in different bubbles of different sizes for different contexts. To believe oneself immune to or devoid of bubbles falls somewhere between the naive and the arrogant.
Hence you believing that only including M/F as gender options is something that would greatly affect the success of an app.
That is flat out not true. I promise you the vast majority of the world, or even the vast majority of the anglosphere do not care. People like the OP from other cultures do not even understand what you are talking about. Only your bubble believes it to be relevant.
That is neither what I believe nor what I wrote. You are making up that argument in your head and attacking a straw man.
If you open a restaurant which only serves spicy food and I tell you “many people won’t come here because they dislike spicy food” while giving you a list of reasons why your spices aren’t even applied correctly, that is not the same as saying “only having spicy food will greatly affect the success of your restaurant”. Rather, it is asking you to consider if you really need to limit yourself to one kind of food.
That should be obvious from my post (and apparently was for most people). My criticism was respectful and focused precisely on asking why be so adamant about something which isn’t verified, is notoriously lied about, and isn’t even relevant to the stated goal.
Perhaps look inward and consider if your own bubble is instilling in you a knee-jerk reaction to instinctively categorise the words of strangers into one-dimensional categories you must agree or disagree with, completely missing any nuance and distorting your own perception of reality.
> People like the OP from other cultures do not even understand what you are talking about.
Obviously and demonstrably false.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43320313
Please stop ascribing beliefs to and assuming ignorance in other people. That is the definition of thinking in a bubble. I urge you to reexamine your own ideals and understanding of the global world we inhabit.
> You only allow “male” and “female” which right off the bat will make many people close the website, *even if they identify with either*
We are not in a restaurant and talking about food where there are so, so many choices. We are talking about implementing drop down menu for gender lol. In context, saying that many people will outright close the app is clearly implying that you think the success of the app can be affected.
And the reason?
Because they only allow male and female. Those are your words.
> Obviously and demonstrably false.https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43320313
Demonstrating nothing of the sort lol. Central Asia still have strong gender norms. In many places they are still thinking the role of women in society is to marry and have children. The idea of NB is not even in its infancy there.
For example: I was wrong to believe you were arguing in good faith and that providing more context would make us reach an understanding. I should have realised that your initial message was already an attempt to be dismissive instead of taking you at your word. Which in hindsight makes sense; if you are duplicitous in your words, you expect others to be the same. My sincere wish is that one day you are lucky enough to to understand the world isn’t black and white and not every issue requires taking a side.
These people dominate every other discussion online and it makes me like his site even more if they’re not there. Most people feel the same way as me.
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