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It's inevitable that if Ukraine has no funding or soldiers to continue this war, then it will end. I don't think that is being questioned.

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why do you want the war to end? is it just a moral calculus of lives lost? how can you be sure that ukraine capitulating to russia will lead to less lives lost than one more year of war? 100,000-600,000 people died in the occupation of iraq, why do you think that a russian occupation of Ukraine will be less bloody?

I don't think it is wise or ethical to spend billions of dollars prolonging a forever-war thousands of miles away.

I also don't think it's wise or rational to presume that every aggressive action necessarily means that the aggressor is Hitler or bent on world domination. Or even that opposing them by sending resources to their enemy is the most effective way to stop it.

For the US, this is an extremely cheap [1] way to counter Russia. Ukraine is doing 99% of the work. We give them money which they immediately give back to us to buy hardware. Or we give mothballed hardware slated for destruction. Most prefer this to a future with dead Americans and US boots on the ground in Europe when NATO countries are invaded by Russia, emboldened by a world that gave up on Ukraine.

[1] as a percentage of the US$850,000,000,000 _annual_ Pentagon budget

Russia can just leave.

Chamberlain tried to bargain peace for Britain at the sacrifice of the Czechs and other nations and in the end his country got bombed to shit anyway. You guys make it seem like Russia has no agency here

I honestly don't know what else Putin would need to say or do to convince you that he is, in fact, a fascist bent on world domination. He's not exactly been shy about it.

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