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> we're all running Chromium and Firefox is bad.

FWIW, I'm genuinely unsure where the "Firefox is bad" narrative comes from. I use Firefox as my primary browser across Android, MacOS, Windows, and Linux (KDE) and have not had any significant trouble with that setup in years outside of an occasional hiccup with a Google property. Mozilla acts like an ADHD squirrel and can't seem to help but burn through their market share, but for all the terrible management and business execution the engineers at Firefox have been consistently improving the product.

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It's strange, Firefox gets so much criticism because they don't pass various purity tests while Chrome is completely exempt because nobody expects it to not be evil.

It's not strange. Mozilla Foundation is a non profit and Google is not.

Sure but people decide Mozilla is not meeting their standards and then switch to.... Chrome. (Or a browser based on chromium which is just a filtered version of Chrome).

the people complaining about firefox are not switching to chrome! they just keep complaining. don't know where you took that wildly inaccurate idea from.

people who don't complain about mozilla sorry state do move to chrome tho.

There is a certain type of poster that says they use Chrome because of X Mozilla thing, almost like it's a rationalization. Certainly not everyone complaining about Firefox of course!

My least favorite thing about Firefox is the "you must restart Firefox to keep browsing" message when my package manager updates it.

yikes. you run updates while working? that's not recommended at all.

More like sanity tests.

https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.ht...

Yeah, Firefox is quite good. It's fast and gets good battery life. It has the occasional bug, but so does Chromium, with any nontrivial usage. I wish Mozilla would focus on Firefox and on their messaging/what their users want (I don't want another chatbot, personally...). The Mozilla management is the only really bad thing about Firefox, but I'd take them over Google's any day.

Even the privacy preserving ads stuff is like... fine to me. I wish they would do other things, but I'm glad they're trying to make an internet monetization framework that's less awful for privacy. I don't have any inherent beef with ads, besides the surveillance apparatus around them. Whether they'll be able to stick to their core mission with the financial allure of ads lurking around the corner, though, I'm not sure.

>I'm genuinely unsure where the "Firefox is bad" narrative comes from

It comes from me, I hate it. The constant begging to use pocket or whatever the frugg its called is a perfect metaphor for the browser as a whole.

I removed the Pocket button from the toolbar with 2 clicks when I setup Firefox a couple months ago and haven't thought about it since. It takes me about 5 minutes to change the Firefox settings to my liking from a fresh install. Firefox sure isn't perfect by a long shot, but the constant haranguing makes me a bit sad

To be fair, I think this is a misinterpretation of what the parent was saying. I read it as: “we’re all running (Chromium + Firefox) is bad”.

That doesn't actually work as a parsing of the sentence in English, and besides, they responded to be with a confirmation that they think Firefox is bad:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43302877

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