62% of Canadians Plan to Avoid the U.S. for at Least the Next Year
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I live in America and I have not seen too many Made In America stuff recently. Maybe that will change though
Most of the made in USA stuff I have seen is mid to higher end.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/31/21348990/google-black-own...
https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-gave-big-companies-sm...
You seem to be talking about a USA social phenomenon that happened in USA?
You are gravely misunderstanding what is currently happening. Now that the depths of American treachery and bloodthirst have been laid bare, the mood in Canada is similar to January 2022 Ukraine.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/world/canada/trump-trudea...
Corporations cashing in on the current thing is hardly something limited to the US.
>You are gravely misunderstanding what is currently happening. Now that the depths of American treachery and bloodthirst have been laid bare, the mood in Canada is similar to January 2022 Ukraine.
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The explicit stated goal of the USA government is to invade Canada.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/world/canada/trump-trudea...
Maybe you need to read what you respond to more carefully? Or brush up on recent history. You seem very confused either way.
My bad, edited the comments accordingly.
It's not just businesses. Literally half their radio content is about buy Canada, avoid the US, Trump is bad for Canada, etc. This content is produced by every group: political ads, government PSAs, advertisements, the talkshow hosts, people calling in...
My county is very dependent on Canadians driving down to buy American goods and we are getting hit hard. I'm not excited for the local economic effects of this trade war (or anything else about it).
Americans are about to learn that Canadians are not the polite people they think they are when things start to get real.
He isn't even moving the goalposts; there are no goalposts. This is economic warfare to take over Canada's resources.
The trade stuff makes no sense either. Just read Trump's own words about what an amazing deal the USMCA treaty (the NAFTA replacement that the Trump administration negotiated in 2020) was: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/re....
So I get it, Trump flip flops all the time, but I'm just trying to find some rationale for the Canada ire. What especially makes me so angry about all of this is that it's just classic junior high bullying bullshit. A couple months ago basically nobody in the US had any bad thoughts about Canada at all. Then Trump went on his bizarro crusade, and now you see all this conservative commentary online bashing Canada, parroting his "51st state/governor Trudeau" nonsense. It's the same juvenile mean girl crap where the queen bee decides "Who are we going to destroy today", and then the queen bee randomly picks out some kid and basically makes everyone else treat this kid like a pariah, simply because she wants to show she can.
The whole thing is just beyond gross to me, but I still can't understand an iota of non-insane rationale behind it.
The reason that he came out of the gate so hard is due to extensive planning, and he's the only person during your lifetime who was the president, had four years off to reflect on it, then became president again. He recorded weird little videos of all of his future policies a couple of years ago, and he's not deviating from them significantly.
He's the least confused guy in politics right now. Whether you like it is a different story, but I personally am thankful that the worst, covert elements of the government made an enemy of him in his first term. The obvious temptation when handed a dystopian nightmare of surveillance, censorship, front groups, fake science, and an infinite mandate to the executive from Congress would be to use them. Thank god Trump actually hates them personally, and is petty.
Economically, he's sincerely trying to keep the US from paying the piper for the trade deficit we've been running for 40 years. He obviously actually believes in this. It is also completely mainstream economic theory. I wish there was a political force that could oppose him on policy and say why things should be done a different way, but the "resistance" base is still announcing that the walls are closing in on orange Hitler any minute. Policy is like kryptonite to anti-Trumpers right now. They refuse to argue anything on the merits, because they all sound like Reagan Republicans when they do.
> Economically, he's sincerely trying to keep the US from paying the piper for the trade deficit we've been running for 40 years. He obviously actually believes in this.
Where is the evidence for this? "Obviously actually" are just weasel words. What's "obvious" to me over a decade of observation is that we have a pathological narcissist in power who cares (or thinks) little about anything other than himself and the things that directly enrich him. I seriously doubt he even knows what a trade deficit is.
(But yes, the people who prop up his signing hand certainly have a carefully constructed agenda, and they were never subtle about it.)
[1]: https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/how-trumps-51st-st...
[2]: https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/02/28/congress/ao...
[3]: https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/us-deploys-ai-to-revoke-visas...
But this is not what Trump stated. The fact sheet he published on March 3 (https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/03/fact-sheet-pr...) doesn't mention anything about trade deficits; it says that the problem is cartel violence and fentanyl imports, and that the tariffs will remain only until "Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country".
(This is why, if you're curious, there's no political force that can oppose Trump on policy. Whenever anyone reads a Trump policy and develops an argument for why it's wrong, his lieutenants and supporters pop up to dunk on you for being so deranged as to think Trump was being serious.)
That said, he doesn't seem to care about any other limits on the executive, and I don't even know how this strategy was meant to get the desired results (is he telling the other leaders his real requirements behind closed doors?)
But the idea that Trump has deep strategic goals he's lying to the American people about is hardly a defense. And all the information that's leaked about negotiations thus far is that Mexico and Canada are just as confused as the general public about what Trump is asking for.
So answer the question of why he wanted to bash Canada in the first place given the points made by the person asking?
The US security establishment is aware of this, as is the Canadian security establishment. The 1% fentanyl headline is indeed widely reported, it’s also a red herring. The simple answer is Canada doesn’t really look, so not much is seen. More info here, by one of Canada’s best investigative journalists:
https://www.thebureau.news/p/trade-based-money-laundering-is...
IMO Trump is, as the official white house press release says, trying to put pressure on Canada to address this. Are tariffs the best way to do that? A valid question, for sure. Does he have other, possibly irrational, motivations? Also an excellent question.
But I see much Canadian and US commentary that assumes there is nothing rational about this at all, and that there is no Canadian border/security issues, and I would say that’s incorrect.
I'm not saying that this makes it BS. But I'm also saying if this doesn't ring your BS meter, you don't have one anymore.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/03/fact-sheet-pr...
Wouldn't it be the US, on their side of the border, who is looking for what is coming into their country, not Canada looking at what is leaving their country? They seem to have a pretty good handle on how much is entering through the southern border.
That said, I'll still definitely grant you the following, especially after researching the issue and seeing information from other outlets: Canada has a serious problem with Chinese money laundering. Fine, but so does the United States: https://www.propublica.org/article/china-cartels-xizhi-li-mo.... None of this feels like anything more than an after-the-fact, invented rationale for the tariffs.
Like the other poster said, the fact that so little fentanyl comes in through the US is not a "red herring" because Canada "isn't looking for it" - you don't go through Customs upon leaving a country, you go through it on entering. And again, even if your argument is that Canada is just supporting the drug trade through its money laundering operations, you could literally point to any country and come up with a host of things that happen within their borders that are somehow bad for the US. You could certainly do it in reverse (shit that the US does that's bad for other countries) 3x. None of it rises to even a teeny bit of the level needed to throwaway a deep, mutually beneficial relationship that has existed for many, many decades.
If the claim is that Trump is simply throwing trade with Canada for no reason whatsoever, i.e. he’s simply an unhinged madman, that’s certainly a politically popular narrative. I’ve provided pointers to reasonable evidence for pressuring a neighbouring state to get its security issues under control, and based on years of hearing about that stuff it seems rational to me. You’re free to disagree, friend.
Canada was a founding member of NATO, and it's very obvious Trump does not want a strong NATO alliance. Whatever the reason may be is up to speculation, but from an outside looking in it's quite jarring seeing clips of Hillary Clinton 8 years ago warn everyone that Trump was going to dismantle NATO. How any American is baffled by the current events is the only thing that is baffling to me.
BUT the ranting is now at the stage where it has created chaos everywhere. And that has been costly everywhere, first of all in the US. Can the concessions make up for that cost? Is anyone in the mood for concessions by now? It's becoming doubtful. A little outrage would have been no big deal, but it seems we are already past that.
I can now see a second theory: if you see a stalemate you don't like - and your position is otherwise somewhat strong - you can kick major mayhem all around you and stand ready to grab what falls back down from people in a less strong situation. A mix of disruption and being bold when the others are fearful. In that situation, the cost of chaos may be acceptable because you believe you can survive that chaos while the others cannot.
There is no going back to the previous relationship because Canadians feel betrayed after years of big sibling adoration and blame pre-existing, worsening unrelated domestic issues on Trump’s actions. My honest take of public sentiment is it has taken such a dive at this point if 9/11 happened in this era the passengers landing in Canada could camp out on the runway huddling for warmth by barrels until busses home are arranged.
I also think (and I realize this, uh, is not a nuanced, science-backed view) that he's senile and as a result collapses complex ideas into their simplest possible form, which is what we're seeing here. There's a level where examining his motivations in depth just comes up empty and I think that's... accurate?