And wouldn't a dual citizen conscripted in Canada be subject to the death penalty for treason in the US?
Henceforth you're subject to Lawsuits in both countries, Arrests in both countries by Any or All Agencies, but it also allow you to have a card under your sleeve, that you can surrender any one of them and stay legally in one anytime.
Also, if the two countries have extradition treaties you're subject to availability by one or both of the countries, if they require you on investigation.
In any of the case above happening sadly you can't request Asylum to the other as you're already their citizen. So, you're putting your self to be able to be extracted from foreign soil with or without permission in such a situation, I imagine.
As during war, there are a lot of things that are unstable, you might as well get away with it, if you choose to hide partial truth, based on the condition you're in. Also, I imagine then any paperwork of opposite country would not be valid in one country, unless they want to. Because war is deception, and your citizenship is stability on paper.
unless an authority or a law revokes you to a responsibility or any other implication it might have.
The United States would simply roll tanks and troops across the border, making it to Ottawa in fairly short order. Canada would then surrender, and the Stars and Stripes would be raised across all the provinces and territories. From there, Canada could consider itself officially annexed.
If I put on my realpolitik hat though, it makes sense why Trump & friends want Canada, same reason they want Greenland: access to the Arctic. Look at a world map and how Canada and Greenland are placed relative to the US. Trump is a real estate guy and lots of land is always the best thing to have.
For Greenland, the United States has no need to flex its military muscle if they want to take it over. The Greenlanders want to be free from Denmark and this is a great opportunity for them to achieve that.
Possible timeline of events:
* Greenland leaves the Danish Realm
* Greenland becomes sovereign nation
* Greenland enters Compact of Free Association with the United States (similar to Kiribati and Micronesia) - boom, best of all worlds for the USA. Juicy real estate, military boost, a local indigenous population that will be able to do nil about it.
* With Greenland secure, the United States finds a pretext for NATO withdrawal.
* The United States either pressures Canada into joining the US or invades outright. European partners do not come to Canada's defence and NATO is officially over. Maybe a European version of it rises in the aftermath.
From there, hard to say what will happen. I would be worried if I was an Icelander.
The thing that would for sure not happen is Canada becoming an actual state in the US. Way too liberal for that and logistically it wouldn't make sense.
> Greenland becomes sovereign nation
Greenlanders don't want to become part of the USA afaik, but they know that in the current situation becoming independent means being invaded, sooner or later, by the USA, Russia or China, so I think that the scenario of Greenland trying to become a sovereign nation is less likely now.
As for Canada, although there are a number of Trump supporters that foam at the idea of invading their neighbor, I think that the invasion would be deeply unpopular (a number of people voted for Trump because he was supposed to stop the wars, not start new ones), especially if the Canadian population offer some kind of resistance although who knows, it is just a matter of enough propaganda...
It isn't the US vs Canada. It is the part of the US willing to wage war against everyone else.
Think what happened to troops returning from Vietnam, not looked upon kindly. Now think of that happening during the conflict. You will, rightfully so, be considered the enemy for participating in this. Certainly, some must touch the stove to know it is hot, I admit this.
I think you're making a couple of shaky assumptions. You're assuming civil society will stand up to Trump. This seems increasingly unlikely to happen.
Also, in the military, there are really serious consequences if you don't do what you're told. It's not the same world as the civilian world. So if an enlisted soldier gets told to suit up for a mission, they'll do it.
Think of the Ukraine war. Many of the Russian soldiers thought they were on an exercise that day, they didn't realize it was a for-real invasion until they got the order.
Lastly, invoking that less than half of Americans voted for this just doesn't mean very much. Trump could have been kept out of office if enough people had gone and voted for Kamala Harris...but they didn't. The people who voted for Trump, hey, say what you like about them, but at least they went to the polls.
This mess is 100% the karma of all Americans.
I strongly disagree. I did not vote for this shit show, nor did many others, and I have no control over those who did.
> The people who voted for Trump, hey, say what you like about them, but at least they went to the polls.
Voting to burn the place down is not a participation trophy.
For example, Trump and Obama have a few interesting things in common. They both became President. And they both defeated Hillary Clinton in order to get there. In 2008, the real race was between the Democrats - Bush was so unpopular it didn't matter who the GOP ran, the Dems were going to take it (in my opinion that's why McCain was allowed to get the nomination). America had the chance to do something really different multiple times and put a woman in charge but it never happened. Now it will almost certainly never happen.
In terms of voting to burn the place down, I think that's really the point a lot of folks have missed. When the existing system doesn't serve you at all, why vote to preserve it? Governments have failed us, totally. Both parties have kowtowed to corporate interests for years and things like NAFTA have had the effects that were warned about in the 90s. Now we are reaping the results.
Very sad state of affairs.
Some of the reason for that is structural. The president has limited power, and congress has been too evenly balanced for decades to really get anything significant done.
If you look at what Trump is doing now it's all things that bypass congress- he knows at least half of them will toe the line and that's enough. When you set a violent mob on a group, and they give you a pass, well, that tells you what you need yo know.
For voters who believe that "it doesn't matter, they're all bad", well I guess we're about to find out. Seems to me there's a difference between the parties, but what do I know...
To the Palestinian supporters who voted for Trump 'cause they didn't like Biden's approach, well let us know how that turns out for you.
The reality is that a lot of Americans like Trump policies - like tarrifs, deportation, gutting govt regulations and so on. Clearly at least half think this is the road to be on.
It's a pity the other half is going along for the ride.
Would you also have predicted the war in Ukraine the same way?
War of 1812 vs today: There are very few countries that have been in wars non-stop for decades. Yes, it's the USA. Maybe they don't call it "war with X country" but once you got military and they walk on foreign soil, packing guns, killing locals, yeah.. that's war alright (plus missiles, plus artillery, plus drones, plus warplanes, plus battleships, plus aircraft carriers). So imho the only country who is R-E-A-D-Y for war within a minute is the USA. Canada has Trudeau, and policemen wearing red, and horses, and snow. Sorry.. no chance. (I am leaving nukes aside as they guarantee M.A.D.)
Besides, all NATO countries participate in missions all over the world, which includes Canada. Americans seem to have nation-wide amnesia forgetting how many allied soldiers died fighting side by side with them.
Former Canadian citizen will be US citizen with the right to buy weapons, AR-15 and grenade launchers included.
Police and out of duty soldiers will be mowed down in random places all over the country. Martial law may be declared. People's freedom of movement will be restricted. Economy will take a bad turn.
Imagine IRA (Ireland), ETA (Spain) or PKK (Turkey) but with legal ability to get a lot of deadly weapons. I don't think Americans are ready for this.