Food for thought why Egypt and Jordan refuse to ease the sufferring of Gazans by offering them temporary refugee statuses, until Hamas is eradicated and they could live in Gaza happily ever after.
The same for Syrians in Turkey, they don't have a proper refugee status and have instead a secondary status that gives them fewer rights.
Here's some food for thought from me as well: why does anything that goes in and out of Gaza go through israel? Why don't other countries recognize the state of Palestine? Wouldn't that be a good step towards a two-state solution? (Even though I don't believe that would work, at least not without justice for the Palestinians).
There's a great project led by a youtuber called Corey Gil-Shuster. This guy walks around the west bank and ask random people about the conflict. I think it sums up a lot of the public opinion in the palestinian territories about the conflict. Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbPK7NnPRUk&ab_channel=Corey...
History could have tipped entirely differently had Yitzhak lived.
.... back.
Rather a short reading of history.
Of course none of the present-day Israelis are responsible for that. They are responsible for retreating into a sanitized, mythological narrative about the founding of their state, however.
> Historically, Palestinians rejected all compromise attempts to end the conflict and get their state. that's the only reason why there's no palestinian country.
Since then, Palestinians have already twice declared their acceptance of a two-state solution in the 1976 borders and declared a state in those borders. It does not explain why Israel and the US kept blocking a state even within those borders. (Meanwhile you can read in Likud's founding charter that the party always fundamentally rejected any kind of Palestinian state as their official policy - a policy that Israel now enacts increasingly openly)
The palestinians who lived in what is Israel today were considered Ottoman, the term "Palestinian" was simply used to name people who live in that strip of land, rather than an actual nationality. Jews who immigrated to Israel from Europe became "Palestinians".
After the palestinians rejected the partition plan, and war broke out - they lost many of their villages. People who fled later claimed they were expelled for various reasons. Arabs who stayed put and didn't flee became full citizens
That's the whole story
What did Israel compromise on? They have settler colonies in the west bank, they control everything that goes in and out of Gaza, they built a wall around Gaza, etc.
It all starts from the initial division of the land that led to the creation of Israel. To me that division makes no sense because the area is not proportial to the population and because of the very nature of the split it created. Instead of offering Palestinians a contiguous division of land, it offered them two disconnected pieces of land with Israel right in the middle. That makes no sense.
As for your video, I don't know what you're trying to stay or do by sharing it. No matter whether you like Pelstinians or not, they have rights especially so under apartheid, settler colonialism and genocide.
Here's for you an example video showing israelis:
https://youtu.be/8RVoPZPKxLY?si=Z-T_iKehTsfJ7xMq
It doesn't look good.
They did have Jewish settlements in Gaza that they forcibly removed. They gave the Sinai back to Egypt, etc.
No land was stolen. Up until 1948 all lands inhabited by jews were purchased from their legal owners - I challenge you - please show me a case where palestinians had their land "stolen" pre-1948.
Also note, from the same page:
> The purchase of land was often accompanied by the eviction of the Arab tenants.
> When it came to the national aspirations of the Zionist movement, the Ottoman Empire opposed the idea of Jewish self-rule in Palestine, fearing it might lose control of Palestine after recently having lost other territories to various European powers.
> In 1881 the Ottoman governmental administration (the Sublime Porte) decreed that foreign Jews could immigrate to and settle anywhere within the Ottoman Empire, except in Palestine and from 1882 until their defeat in 1918, the Ottomans continuously restricted Jewish immigration and land purchases in Palestine.
Can we agree now that no land was stolen? It was purchased from their rightful owners and then, according to Ilan Pappe, ( the one whose book is cited claiming Arab tenants were evicted) who is a known anti Zionist, and hardly an impartial investigator, "often" Arab tenants were evicted.
This is a claim, not an evidence
Historically, Palestinians have destablized those countries. Palestinians assassinated the King of Jordan[1] and a Prime Minister[2]. Not to mention the instability in Lebanon from Palestinian migrants [3]. Eventually Jordan had to expel the Palestinians from Jordan. [4]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_I_of_Jordan#Assassina...
[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Wasfi_Tal
Egypt is kind of overpopulated. Most of the country is uninhabitable, and the Nile from Aswan to the Mediterranean is effectively a contiguous chain of settlements with a total of ~100 million people. The current administration also doesn't want to import Hamas, because they have enough trouble with the Muslim Brotherhood, which used to be the parent group of Hamas.
I learn nothing about that region cause there’s no need to. Absolutely sure that Gaza conflict is not about historically bad neighborship, but about multiple large political forces funding armed groups to retain various destabilizing vectors. And both Jordan and Egypt and a bunch of other clans around have their hands elbow deep in this muppet show, while being partially sponsored by the same good guys who call for the resolve.
Also, even in a scenario where this happens, Hamas will feel betrayed and won’t just allow mass exodus for free. Meat shield is all it has.
Especially Iran, but also Hamas can freely fundraise in several of the other gulf states.
Don't forget that there are internal anti-peace factions on the Israeli side too, such as those who assassinated Yitzhak Rabin and terminated the last working peace process.
The leaders of Egypt, Jordan and people of Gaza know better than to fall for such an obvious ruse. Anyone arguing otherwise is clearly ignorant or speaking in bad faith.
Many peoples have suffered wars throughout history, were displaced and relocated in other countries. Only the palestinians retain their refugee status even after living in surrounding arab countries like Lebanon, Syria for more than 3 generations.
There are more than 2 million arabs that remained in Israel and didn't flee during the 1948 wars, they are all full citizens now, in full contrast.
The only reason for keeping palestinians in a refugee status is to keep the conflict going until the eradication of the state of Israel.
UNRWA is a known cover for laundrying Hamas activities, there are many accounts of Hamas members firing and conducting military activities wearing UNRWA uniforms and traveling in UNRWA vehicles. That's why many countries stopped supporting them financially
The arabs within Israel do not have equal status to Israeli nationals, and less than any Jew who claims lineage but has no connection to Israel. Refugee status is also maintained by Israeli rulings about refugees from Palestine, in order to delegitimize right of return: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_citizenship_law https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/6/29/israeli-aparthe...
Furthermore, the UN have ruled that the right of return is valid, as opposed to the current nationality rules around Jewish heritage that make no sense - no other countries allow similar things: https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/09/1154496
Neighbouring countries accepting refugees could well be considered an endorsement of ethnic cleansing. TBH Gazans should not have to move, the current state of Gaza is entirely down to Israeli destruction which was completely unnecessary - hostage exchange could have happened at any time in the last 15 months, and Netenyahu has blocked that discourse 10+ times before, as it has not been in his interests to seek a resolution to the conflict (witness the complaints by the families of the Israeli hostages).
Yes, at the same time in Europe, millions of people were kicked out of their homes because of redrawing borders and ethnic cleansing of many regions after WW2. Look up the history of Displaced Persons.
This is Israel's weird hasbara logic of "19th century imperialist rules for us, 20 century postwar rules for everyone else". The prohibition of taking land by force is a central rule of the post-WWII world order, yet it seems to apply to all except Israel.
Also, large-scale waves of refugees are always a challenge for the host countries, and I don't know about any situation where the host country didn't want the refugees to go back eventually. (Not even speaking about the refugees themselves, who have to start a new life with basically nothing)
There already are 5.6 million refugees in Jordan and neighbouring countries, created by Israel's ethnic cleansing of Palestinians; that's almost half the population of Israel. Why should Palestinians forcibly leave their own land?