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Elon Musk urges Trump to 'think about' pardoning George Floyd's murderer

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What will it take to get Musk disinvited from YC's AI Startup School[1]? Does he have to kill a baby? This is beyond appalling.

[1]: https://events.ycombinator.com/ai-sus

Presumably Y-Combinator loves this behavior and wants to encourage it however controversial it may be. No publicity is bad publicity...?

Garry Tan and Paul Graham are both hardcore MAGA supporters. If Musk killed a baby Paul Graham would happily write a lengthy screed about how baby killing is fundamental to entrepreneurship.

@paulg does not seem like a hardcore MAGA supporter based on his tweets.

Indeed he asked people to vote Kamala. He is friendly with Musk though, or at least was.

With the cuts Doge has made the baby kill count is bound to become non-zero.

Then the answer is to stop counting baby deaths. Can't complain about the statistics if there are no statistics.

https://apnews.com/article/census-bureau-commerce-department...

Is the right now truthing out over the murder of George Floyd, an event captured in its entirety on video from multiple angles?

The regressive right sees Floyd as a “degenerate”; and in their eyes, nothing done to such a person (up to and including public execution) can be a crime.

It’s sad It felt like this one started out bipartisan and eventually devolved like everything else into the culture war.

Not to get all conspiracy-y, but it does t feel like there’s a good reason to do this if you’re not trying to inflame tensions / further divide America.

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

(This is a little unfair or at least over-broad, in that there are plenty of movements normally identified as conservative who don’t have this ethos; you wouldn’t catch Merkel indulging in it, say. But it’s not a terrible description of the new/21st century far/right movements.)

The right has always considered the murder of George Floyd to be entirely justified. It has never been even remotely controversial for them.

If anything, their only objection is that the police aren't killing more black people more often.

I was curious what the argument is and it seems - the first I saw - that he was following methods he was trained on https://x.com/OwenGregorian/status/1876964172195352954

That's the best they can come up with? Floyd was already handcuffed.

No matter, I'm sure Chauvin's innocence will be an established fact within the right-wing canon soon enough. Poor, persecuted Saint Chauvin, railroaded just like the late, great Hannibal Lecter.

"No lives matter" seems to be the operative message of the current regime.

All things being equal, they prefer white ones.

But if you are poor (not a billionaire), old, LGBT+, non-xtian, you can get fucked.

> operative message

There's an important gap between their overt message and their actual deeds here... but neither are good.

Why not pardoning all murderers in exchange for them joining the military like in Russia? A win-win-win situation and it will also save a lot of money for the tax payer.

Lots of stories where the murderer survives the military and comes back to rape and murder back in Russia.

Not exactly a win for all parties...

Sure! The rule of law is for suckers anyways. Let's do rule by law. It's much better if we have in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

For all those surprised about what's going on with Musk - keep in mind, that he's very isolated, with no real friends, and only his brother & mother. The guy has at least 14 kids with 4 different women, 2 of which recently tried to reach him via Twitter...

His Twitter addiction is there for a reason - he's actually looking for what he thinks are genuine interactions with people. And he tries to please them, maybe unconsciously.

He's become the 'miserable billionaire' that Warren Buffett was talking about. And that, he knows all too well.

Here is the Buffett quote: "Basically, when you get to my age, you'll really measure your success in life by how many of the people you want to have love you actually do love you.

I know people who have a lot of money, and they get testimonial dinners and they get hospital wings named after them. But the truth is that nobody in the world loves them. If you get to my age in life and nobody thinks well of you, I don't care how big your bank account is, your life is a disaster.

That's the ultimate test of how you have lived your life. The trouble with love is that you can't buy it ... The only way to get love is to be lovable ... The more you give love away, the more you get."

And here is his another take: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/yossi-farro-656486187_warren-...

Who is surprised? He is a racist asshole.

Yes, I'm sure he's miserable, but he's also a racist oligarch asshole _and_ miserable. Should I feel bad for him? No.

Pathetic that such a rich and powerful man spends most of his social energy trying to please teenage edgelords and bots on social media.

I don't know if what you say about Musk is true, but I want to thank you for sharing that quote by and that video of Warren Buffett. I had seen that quote before, but not the video. Both are insightful. I found the video more powerful.

Here is the full video: https://youtu.be/M-vQGxTFfPU?si=9dFG2LVh_qGkFNB6

Most Buffett speeches are now onlines, and most are extremely good.

> "Your birthday was the seventeenth of last month, in point of fact."

> "I missed it anyway, then." He closed the bag and stuffed the uniform far back in his closet. "Not important."

> "It’s important that someone celebrate our existence," she objected amiably. "People are the only mirror we have to see ourselves in. The domain of all meaning. All virtue, all evil, are contained only in people. There is none in the universe at large. Solitary confinement is a punishment in every human culture."

-- Mirror Dance by Lois McMaster Bujold

I think we are finding that way way way more people than anyone expected are actually caught in filter bubbles of their own making, and falling down radicalization rabbit holes from algorithms paperclip-maximizing their way to optimum engagement.

What's more engaged than someone who is so obsessed, so mentally broken, that they pay $44 billion to own the media company itself?

Unfortunately he seems to be having the time of his life but that might just be the ketamine.

https://archive.ph/OeeAb

> Musk made the call for Derek Chauvin's release from prison Tuesday on his X social media platform while re-posting a rant from conservative pundit Ben Shapiro.

I listen to a fair amount of center-right/old-school conservative podcasters, some of whom are Jewish (I do not listen to Shapiro with any regularity because I would consider him more of a provocateur than pundit), and I keep wondering if they will ever get squeamish about ascendant American fascism. While they may be focusing their ire at immigrants and muslims now, it seems like they always come back to Jews at some point. I suspect they should take Musk's Nazi salute more seriously.

It’s easy to feel safe when it’s not your group being targeted. Unfortunately, safety in such circumstances can be a fleeting thing.

As long as these dudes are rich, they will never care. They will always be able to leave, or hire significant personal security, and will never be at risk.

They are modern kapos, and they’d have happily sold every other Jew to the Germans in the 30s.

It's funny, I've used that exact term, kapo, for Shapiro for probably a decade now, but I was thinking more of the "Commentary Magazine" crew. They are (as far as I know) not rich and make Jewish identity a stronger part of their brand.

Wow

If it were possible at all for Elon Musk to jump the shark, this would be it. This is utterly shameless.

IDK when he jumped the shark, my first guess is about the time he called a diver a "pedo" on Twitter that he became officially full time cringe.

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