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I agreed with you until the last bit. I don’t think there’s a uniform “they” with a stable set of goals. All of the heritage foundation, Vance, Trump, Elon, congress, the Christian nationalists, etc I’m certain have different and probably often conflicting goals… that also shift constantly depending on the context.

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It's foolishness to think many millions of voters don't also agree with these cuts. They don't value these programs.

With the vastness of the political spectrum and volume of voters, one can find "millions" of voters that support cuts to almost any program.

In some respects, I agree. But they aren’t touching much that voters do care about and that’s where the overwhelming majority of spending comes from. Every valid path to actually reducing debt pisses off most of the electorate. It’s “chasing” a noble goal with political theater. What’s happening now is a path to privatization of large swaths of current govt.

That's what representation in Congress is for, and why the Constitution specifies that Congress holds the power of the purse, not the president, and especially not an unelected billionaire with conflicts of interest.

the purse is quite litteraly drawing a hard vacume its so empty. the power to suck money from the future at an ever increasing rate was never put to any proper scruteny, and hopefully, the experiment will now end, through the process of defunding anything and everything that is of zero practical and imediate utility.

And even on the other end of the political spectrum you'll find individuals and groups using loopholes or trying to use tactics/interpretations that suit their goals. This isn't something new. Pretty much any of these EOs have similar past ones that are either forgotten or were largely ignored because they happened one at a time. The scope and rate of change is just much higher now than in any memorable past (eg wouldn't count internment camps etc as they are too far past).

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