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So these sciency folks have managed to move tooth from the mouth to the eyes but still want to pluck some teeth off to move around some other teeth parked wrongly; and then expect me to have something installed forever to keep them in place, even after all that planned uprooting. Huh.

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fwiw in the US, typically even extremely messed up teeth don't require removal to fix with orthodontics. Some ortho places will advocate it because it's easier. But if you get a few quotes in a big city usually someone can do it without pulling.

Wisdom teeth often do require pulling cus they literally don't fit (idk if this is an evolution thing - were people losing teeth normally enough that a new one coming in wasn't overcrowding?)

I think this is an evolution thing but not in that way. I believe when our diets changed due to agriculture the foods we ate got softer and our mouths subsequently changed [1]

[1]https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/pittwire/features-articles/cur...

What are those procedures that I can discuss with an orthodontist? Because almost everybody here (not in US) tries to sell one package or the other and even with that they add teeth removal and life long retainer and what not.

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