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>despite Mozilla working in the interest of users to a infinitely greater degree than any other major browser vendor.

Obviously not anymore, it's a add company now.

But at least they have "cool" party's in Zambia.

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> it's a add company now

Note that "any other major browser vendor" is a short list of ad companies with a much worse track record.

I don't think Apple (Safari) is a ad company.

They are[1][2]. It makes them billions every year[3]

[1]: https://ads.apple.com [2]: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/control-how-apple-del... [3]: https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/06/15/apple-ad-business...

Ah ok, but do they have a worse track-record then Google Microsoft or Mozilla?

Relative to Mozilla: on the advertising front I can't judge whether Apple is worse or about the same. On most other fronts I don't think there's much of a question. Others disagree, the extent to which Apple's actions are user-hostile is an often debated topic I'm not particularly interested in re-threading.

Google and Microsoft aren't really a comparison, both have been openly anti-user on many fronts for many years.

So let's correct your statement then to >>most other major browser vendor

;)

No, I stand by my statement. I consider Apple extremely user-hostile and in many ways worse than Microsoft and Google. Those ways are just less broadly agreed upon.

Huh? Those aren’t in-browser ads. Those are ads delivered through installed native apps.

Do you have a source showing that Safari makes money from ads?

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